Raj Nair discusses Hybrid Mustang at 2017 NAIAS

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  1. Jarstang

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    I know this has been posted in other threads but in case anyone missed it --

    CNET Roadshow's Emme Hall had a chance to interview Ford's Raj Nair at the 2017 Detroit Auto Show and she managed to tease out a few details about the future Hybrid Mustang (S650) from the Chief Technical Officer.

    In the interview, Raj provides enough clues to piece together that the Hybrid Mustang will very likely feature electric motors mated to an EcoBoost turbo V6 engine. Perhaps not shocking to most, but good to have some confirmation of what we can expect.

    You can watch the complete video here (relevant Q&A below):

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/videos/lets-chat-with-ford-cto-raj-nair/

    Q: Please tell me this hybrid [Mustang] is going to be more like a Porsche 918 than a Prius. How are you going to use that hybrid technology to give the Mustang the performance that consumers and fans are expecting?

    A: That’s exactly right. We’re talking using electrification to give our consumers more and in the Mustang it’s all about performance. So we’re talking about V8-like performance and at the low-end even more torque available with the electric motors. It’s going to be a very, very fun hybrid to drive.

    Q: So maybe an all-electric launch?

    A: I wouldn’t say all-electric, but the great thing about electric motors is that they make torque at very low RPM, instant torque, so you couple that with an EcoBoost type engine and you have a great combination.

    Q: We’ll see if that crosses over to any of the other muscle cars. If we’re going to be seeing now hybrid Camaros, hybrid Challengers, you guys could launch a whole new segment.

    A: Yea, hopefully we’ll be first in that segment.

    Q: You have your pick of any car in the Ford fleet, I know you do. So what are you daily driving right now?

    A: My daily driver is a Mustang GT. Even in the winter.
     
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    Thanks for posting. I wonder if it will be a plug in type hybrid, or just a regualr one. Either way, sounds like a good move from Ford.
     
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    Looks good to me. The Mustang GT is fun to drive, but a bit more low-rpm punch could make a huge difference. Hopefully the Hybrid will not cost much more than a GT.
     
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    Key phrases from Raj Nair:

    "V8 like performance" and "electric motors make instant torque, so couple that with an Ecoboost type engine, and you have a great combination"

    My take is ... no more V8 with the hybrid S650.

    Could be they might still offer a non-hybrid V8, but maybe not if they want to move the whole Mustang line in the direction of hybrid technology.
     
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    Says his daily driver is a Mustang GT :D :cheers:
     
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    That is the key, performance hybrid cars are generally not inexpensive.
     
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    I'm hoping for FWD electric motors that can be used for AWD launches!
     
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    i highly doubt they scratch the V8 this soon. i know ford is making a transition with their vehicles, but they know the hit they would take if they scratched the V8. i think adding this hybrid tech just boosts up their epa avg so that they can still make vehicles like the gt, gt350, etc
     
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    I just love Raj drives a GT everyday. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy
     
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    I don't know about that....

    I was checking out a GT350R in the packing lot of Concourse De Elegance, and it had a Ford Performance bag in it. I wondered who's it was, no sooner that when I finished that thought. Raj Nair came out to it.

    He chatted with my girlfriend and I briefly, then left for lunch.

    As he passed us in the packing lot, he uncorked the exhaust and gave it a little hell.

    From my very brief encounter he seemed like a pretty genuinely nice guy.


    I have to agree. Everyone is so concerned with the V8 leaving. Frankly I think these moves will enable it for the long term.
     
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    Raj is a nice guy. He's got a heck of an ego, but you need some of that to push hard in this business. Good news is he knows what he's doing so it's alright.

    Can confirm that he daily drives a GT :ford:
     
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    everyday to include winter BOOM lol but im sure he has like a gilzillion mustangs lol
     
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    I'm fine with other hybrid Vehicles....

    I just honestly see no point of it ATM for the mustang considering how the V8 is slowly being pushed into a realm that most can't afford.

    So while everyone else is ecstatic about it.... I'm over here like if you're looking to push V8 performance... You're too late to hop on that train ford.
     
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    Maybe this tech could be combined with that rumored 4.0 V8? If that engine actually exists that is... :shrug:

    Personally it seems a bit overkill to have a twin turbo engine plus electric... I would prefer an NA engine that can rev to 8500+... Design it to make power above 4000 and have the electric motor fill in the power band in the low RPMs.
     
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    That means nothing about the V8. The Hybrid will be the new trim. Now that the V6 is gone it will be EB > GT V8 > Hybrid. We are still awhile away from phasing out V8 engines. Adding a Hybrid will help them increase their overall MPG rating. Ford knows very well the demand for a V8 Mustang is high.
     
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    Ecoboosts produce peak torque at 2000ish rpm, so i dont see why an Ecoboost V6 would need low end torque help. Seems like the V8 would be the better pairing, but maybe that means the motor and turbos will be sized to make peak torque later and make more power.
     
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    I believe the low end torque is mentioned as a selling point. All electric motors provide high low end torque instantly.
     
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    100% of torque available at 0 rpm. When integrated right, this allows a huge variable control to be had when launching a vehicle. You would be able to get killer 60 foot times both on the streeet and strip.
     
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    No way its going to be cheap. It will be the top option. V8 in the middle, Current EB or v6 EB at the bottom.
     
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    Sheesh...twin turbo, electric motors and a battery pack of some yet to be determined size. This thing is going to be expensive, complex and heavy.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm psyched that the Blue Oval is pushing the technology and trying new things but as someone who likes their cars to be as "pure" (simple) as possible, the hybrid isn't on my potential dream car list. I really don't care how quick it is.
     
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