Question for guys who actually have the the Roush Kit

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Yes no revisions sent and have been deemed good to go , im sure if just stock prob not much revising to do but just copy and paste unless you have some mods mine are just all suspension mods for now.
Anxious to hear how it performs at the strip. How does it feel compared to the Roush?
 

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I have a few questions after 2K miles of hard driving 1 quart of oil seems to be normal to me, just wanted to get others views
also on a cold startup not always but a few times it will sit at idle and surge up and down about 700 rpm
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First car was a 19 PP1 with Roush CAI and Tune. I did do a lot of WOT rolls with car. This car used 1 quart of oil every 2000 miles. Current ride is 19 RS Roush and it does not use any oil.
 

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Anxious to hear how it performs at the strip. How does it feel compared to the Roush?
Idk know just did 2 pulls and havent really got on it after that shifting is smooth but i kept it in normal mode but rpms are up there when u mash it and stay up there if no rain here wednesday we are hitting darlington but only 1/8 mile for tnt ill report back if we go
 

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Normally if you are running any brand of the kits out there and didn’t change anything then typically they have a vetted dialed in tune they send you and usually after logging it there won’t be a need for a revision.

The trans shifting is indeed lazy on these 10R80’s unless your going all out and got to expect the shifting should definitely be a huge improvement.
 

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Normally if you are running any brand of the kits out there and didn’t change anything then typically they have a vetted dialed in tune they send you and usually after logging it there won’t be a need for a revision.
I am a little surprised to hear this. It almost sounds like a canned tune.

When getting a custom tune for my Ecoboost Lincoln, we went through 8 or 9 tweaks before both the tuner and I were 100% satisfied. This was with a tuner who specializes in Ford Ecoboost engines.

There were 3 or 4 revisions on the flex fuel tune I had before I got the Roush kit. One was based on a log done at the drag strip.
 

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I am a little surprised to hear this. It almost sounds like a canned tune.

When getting a custom tune for my Ecoboost Lincoln, we went through 8 or 9 tweaks before both the tuner and I were 100% satisfied. This was with a tuner who specializes in Ford Ecoboost engines.

There were 3 or 4 revisions on the flex fuel tune I had before I got the Roush kit. One was based on a log done at the drag strip.
VMP, Lund, PBD have done probably 1000’s of tunes on these set ups and if it’s just the Roush kit with no other mods their base file is probably going to be on point and if any revisions are needed it won’t be many.

On my 17 Roush Phase 2 when I went from the Roush tune to a VMP tune the first tune was on point and no revisions needed. Now when I changed out injectors, intake, pulley, throttle body it needed a few revisions to get dialed in.
 

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VMP, Lund, PBD have done probably 1000’s of tunes on these set ups and if it’s just the Roush kit with no other mods their base file is probably going to be on point and if any revisions are needed it won’t be many.

On my 17 Roush Phase 2 when I went from the Roush tune to a VMP tune the first tune was on point and no revisions needed. Now when I changed out injectors, intake, pulley, throttle body it needed a few revisions to get dialed in.
Yeah thats why i went with pbd, i knew they had already done many of the new roush you’re paying for a tune that already prob has been revised dozens of time and its just copy and paste but all the r&d was done on the earlier tunes. 5 datalogs sent and no revision

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Yeah thats why i went with pbd, i knew they had already done many of the new roush you’re paying for a tune that already prob has been revised dozens of time and its just copy and paste but all the r&d was done on the earlier tunes. 5 datalogs sent and no revision

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Greyhorse how do you like the tune so far? Curious to get feedback from all of you who got tuned by PBD or VMP for others to make a informed decision. I guess you can say your a pioneer into custom tune for the rest of us 18+ Roush guys.
 

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Greyhorse how do you like the tune so far? Curious to get feedback from all of you who got tuned by PBD or VMP for others to make a informed decision. I guess you can say your a pioneer into custom tune for the rest of us 18+ Roush guys.
Ill let you know tomorrow rain is supposed move out and a group of us are headed to the track i havent told anyone im tuned and see how i do and will claim im on a stock tune new nos camaro cam lth tune ill prob run also a turbo ls camaro 2000 and nos foxbody and possibly a whippled 15 manual car so ill see if i can get a race with all of them but usually only get 2-3 passes
 

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Me and the turbo ls we both laid down blacks marks for a good ways im in the left lane
 

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What kind of numbers are people seeing on E85. Plan on doing fuel system and the Roush blower, picking it up cheap.
 

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Temperatures are gonna be in the 60s during evening hours in Mexico this weekend. I will be out trolling.
 

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What kind of numbers are people seeing on E85. Plan on doing fuel system and the Roush blower, picking it up cheap.
I dont know but heard u can go high 9’s on e85 then the heat and small inlet are the problem
 

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I haven't been on the site much lately. So I'm going to respond to a couple topics I saw and I had a couple questions that you guys can probably answer.

I'm surprised it is considered normal for use 1 qt of oil in 2,000 miles. That seems a little excessive to me. I haven't really had a chance to see if mine consumes oil as I haven't driven it enough miles.

There is a lot of talk about aftermarket tunes. I won't have a before and after dyno for my car with a custom tune. So I won't be able to give any HP differences. However, one advantage of the tune was an improvement for overall driving. The VMP tune helped with surging while cruising. It also fixed an issue with throttle response delay. My car had a pretty good lag at throttle tip in. It is much better with the VMP tune.


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1. My car has the phase 2 kit for a Gen2. Do they replace the thermostat as part of the install and if not, should I get a colder one? I'm not even sure what these cars have stock, but I see a lot of people recommending a 170 degree thermostat.

2. I think the Phase 2 kit comes with 47 LB injectors. Isn't 727 HP kind of pushing the limits for only 47 LB injectors? I wouldn't even think they could support that much power.
 
 
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