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I also would be curious about BaT's decision making. I tried last year to put up my immaculate Golf R manual (and probably the last year they will ever offer a manual again, at that) to make room for my 350 and didn't get accepted. I know it's only one data point, and not the most special car in the world, but considering the amount of late model cars they do accept I don't see the rhyme or reason for that. Just got me to thinking about how they make the decisions they do...
I sold my wife's TT on BaT, and it took about a month to go live after they accepted it, and they pushed pretty hard for a "no-reserve" sale. I ended up getting exactly what my reserve would have been, anyway, so it went fine. A TT in far worse shape the next week went for more, which I think is their strategy - people missed out on mine, then jumped at the next one.

The only thing I know about BAT is it’s an on line auction site. Why in the world would an on line auction site turn down a legit seller. I mean I can see someone wanting to put up a $300 car and getting turned down…but you?
I don’t get it.
They do have capacity limits, probably partially due to the size of their staff, but mostly due to the nature of the platform - they want their buyers scrolling all the cars and seeing what's interesting. If you have 1,000 cars, no one will scroll them.

It preys on nostalgia and a sense of urgency of "that car" getting away. It's not like Autotrader where you decide you want a specific car, then go search for that car. It's much more like window shopping, where you're going to walk into the store and buy the thing that catches your eye. Whatever the model is, it's working really well. For those of us who have been following the site for years, it has rapidly changed from a place to get a great deal on a quirky, old, probably European car that needs some work, to a place where you can routinely watch Ford GTs get auctioned off for high-six-figure and (with the newer cars) low-seven-figure sums. An occasional bargain sneaks through, but it's more common for there to be a BaT "tax," especially on Porsches and some higher-end stuff.

3 years ago I almost bit on a Ferrari 456 GT 6-speed that went for about $55K. I am SO kicking myself for not doing it. C'est la vie.
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The dealer networks is 100% not equipped to manage a true performance car, or any car that the owner considers "special." This isn't really a knock on Ford dealers; they make their money on volume and keeping soccer moms in their Explorers happy and probably view picky, detail-oriented people as a nuisance. My local dealer was actually pretty good about the R on delivery, but then I never took it to them except for a warranty issue, and I had to watch like a hawk. But I understand that I was an anomaly there.
Agreed. I've never taken mine to the Ford dealer in NJ. Wouldn't trust them with this car at all. Would much rather spend a premium with a high-end shop I trust and not have to worry. Granted, I realize not everyone is in that position but I also knew going into this purchase it would be the same on my pocket as maintaining a high end Audi RS/MB AMG etc. Nothing about this car is average or cheap (at least mechanically) in my opinion.
 

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Saw that... MIght be too many mods for the collector premium - will be interesting.
 

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Saw that... MIght be too many mods for the collector premium - will be interesting.
Agreed. Porsche GT3 seats are nice, but nice as long as you get the original seats too, which it does not seem like it does.
 

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Agreed. Porsche GT3 seats are nice, but nice as long as you get the original seats too, which it does not seem like it does.
I love the seats, but it is a bit weird that the original seats wouldn't be included. It also seems to have been tracked very hard. New tires and brakes within 6 months of being new.

There were only 14 R's built in 2019 in Orange Fury making this a rare spec, but with the custom mods I don't expect this example to be setting any new benchmarks for the 2019 model year.

My prediction is $81,900 (final price).
 

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Not only check out the seats but check out all the brake pads and tires that were replaced at just 471 miles and after just ~5 months of ownership.

Looks like the replaced tires are all Cup 2 tires with 3 of them dated ~mid 2019 and 1 tire dated late July 2017 which seems a bit odd when paying big money for a new set of Michelin tires.

I like the carbon-ceramic installed rotors but seats are butt ugly.

This car has way too many factors that point to a heavily tracked car.

Love the color combination but buyer beware on this beauty!!

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The seller says the original brakes, seats, and shifter are available and will be included in the sale. The original title was lost and a duplicate was requested.
 

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Photos are limited for Bat, and couple of the hood make it look like the hood is not properly seated up front. Either that or the front bumper assembly is not properly attached.
 

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Looks like things are finally starting to break a little bit. This is consistent with what I am seeing locally, whenever I search Auto tempest most cars have been sitting for a good month.

Still hoping I might be able to get in one in the next 6 months.

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I love the seats, but it is a bit weird that the original seats wouldn't be included. It also seems to have been tracked very hard. New tires and brakes within 6 months of being new.

There were only 14 R's built in 2019 in Orange Fury making this a rare spec, but with the custom mods I don't expect this example to be setting any new benchmarks for the 2019 model year.

My prediction is $81,900 (final price).
Sold for $95,000.
 

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These cars are amazing, until you need to take them in for service. Then you realize them being affordable is due to cutting costs everywhere including dealership quality. I drove my car 5 years/70,000 miles until one day my luck ran out. So we are all drinking some kool-aid here. There is no bang for the buck. You win some and you lose some. Its a compromise. A car is more than just sum of its parts. Its the entire experience that you pay for.
I wanted to say something contrary here and defend the dealerships, but then I remembered when they couldn't figure out how to install the front splitter on my GT350. They didn't even install 1/2 the fasteners! Just ridiculous.

Oh, and they messed up the oil line recall and I had to get my car towed back for them to repair their repair.

I have to agree that Ford's dealers are terrible. I had really good luck with oil changes, but anything else - avoid them unless it's absolutely necessary.
 

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I wanted to say something contrary here and defend the dealerships, but then I remembered when they couldn't figure out how to install the front splitter on my GT350. They didn't even install 1/2 the fasteners! Just ridiculous.

Oh, and they messed up the oil line recall and I had to get my car towed back for them to repair their repair.

I have to agree that Ford's dealers are terrible. I had really good luck with oil changes, but anything else - avoid them unless it's absolutely necessary.
"I had good luck with oil changes" is sorta like saying "that restaurant didn't give me e. coli so it's fine." Some things are just table stakes.
 

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I wanted to say something contrary here and defend the dealerships, but then I remembered when they couldn't figure out how to install the front splitter on my GT350. They didn't even install 1/2 the fasteners! Just ridiculous.

Oh, and they messed up the oil line recall and I had to get my car towed back for them to repair their repair.

I have to agree that Ford's dealers are terrible. I had really good luck with oil changes, but anything else - avoid them unless it's absolutely necessary.
Must respectfully disagree with you based on my personal experience and maybe I have been very fortunate regarding my personal experiences with numerous Ford dealerships but they have all been positive.

After owning 7 second generation GT350/R's I am more than happy with all my Ford dealership experiences when it comes to many service issues which includes everything from oil changes, bumper to bumper warranty issues, CF drive shafts installations, paint corrections, detaling and other issues I must say that I have had a positive experience with all my Ford dealerships.

Do I get that numerous other GT350/R enthusiasts have had some negative issues that went the wrong direction regarding service issues, I certainly get that. :like:
 
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