Official: 2018 Ford Mustang Refresh Detailed! (Options/Features, Specs, Photos, Info)

Discussion in 'Mustang S550 General Forums' started by Jarstang, Jan 17, 2017.

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    Nevermind, I misunderstood what you posted.
     
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    Saw what might have been a 2018 PP2 car today in whitelake. Silver with at least a right black fender with what appeared to be a pretty aggressive wheel and tire combo. The tires appeared to be just proud of the body work.

    Looked pretty good.
     
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    I agree with your sentiment -- maybe b/c I'm not a current owner either.
     
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    Why would Ford upgrade the engine again in the same gen for model year '20 when the next gen is scheduled to be unveiled in 2020 for the '21 model year? I bet the '18-'20 will remain the same powertrain-wise until the next gen is released.
     
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    I think 455 is too low for all the work they're doing to the motor. And not many people are mentioning the torque which is where i believe the bigger gain will be. The way I see it, the 18 got a lot of changes that people wanted or complained about. Ive seen a good amount of complaints of no low rpm torque. I think the big gain is going to be there. And even if they give the car 455 hp and 440tq will it even at least keep up with a 2 year old camaro? Wouldnt that be really dissapointing if the camaro still beats it after the mustang got a totally redesigned motor plus DI PI plus the ten speed auto? I really think the hp is gonna be closer to 470 and tq close to 440.
     
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    You obviously have not been watching....Ford have already officially announced they are not only upgrading the 2018 engine, it is completely new "thoroughly reworked" (except the Crankshaft) - see page one of this thread, and:

    https://media.ford.com/content/ford...stang-design-technology-performance.html.html

    "Ford’s legendary 5.0-liter V8 engine has been thoroughly reworked. It is more powerful and revs higher than any Mustang GT before. This power increase was achieved with the first application for Mustang of Ford’s new dual-fuel, high-pressure direct injection and low-pressure port fuel injection on a V8 engine – delivering robust low-end torque, high-rpm power, and improved fuel efficiency."
     
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    It does seem unlikely that Ford would go for parity at 455. If I were the marketing guy I would be pushing engineering hard for 460 minimum, and anything above that would be gravy.
     
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    I got the year wrong. i meant that the refreshed S550 engine specs will remain the same until S650 comes in.

    For S650, i doubt we will see a major change in HP/TQ if ford decided to keep it NA. I think this refreshed engine will be like a test engine for the next gen mustang, kinda like how apple releases model "S" and adds on those features onto the next model iphone.
     
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    Don't think there will be a NA V8 in the S650 since it's going hybrid ... but it will have "V8 like power" according to Ford.
     
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    Ford never said it was going to be only hybrid. I would be very surprised if hybrid was not just one of several engine offerings. If I was guessing I would say a base ecoboost 4, and then a GT NA V8 (probably minimally changed from the 18) and a GT hybrid that will probably outperform the V8. The long-term strategy seems to be to eliminate the NA V8 in favor of a smaller turbo+hybrid system, but they would be nuts to go all-in the first year.
     
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    So maybe like V6 TT with battery :shrug: ?
     
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    Everything I've read so far doesn't give any indication that the S650 will offer a V8 option. Guess time will tell. Personally, I think if they take the V8 away all together that it will be a sad day for the Mustang. But recall it was done once before in 1974, so it could happen again.
     
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    Why on Earth would you even think there will be a V8 Hybrid? The GT will remain exactly what it is, a NA V8.

    The hybrid will be based on the 4banger EcoBoost, just like in the Fusion. The only question is if they are going hybrid only with the 4-cylinders or that the current non-hybrid version will stay on as well.
     
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    That would make the most sense, as the guys I know, mostly older, who can easily afford a GT, don't want anything to do with a hybrid. Most just don't want the complexity, even if they are keeping it stock.

    Keep the hybrid option on the low end of the price scale where the younger
    buyers would be more accepting.

    That said, the average age of a Mustang buyers was 52 in 14 or 15.
    Maybe it's come down some since the advent of the EB, but I still
    bet it's in the mid 40's (can't find updated data).
     
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    Doesn't the govt pay people $7k to buy a hybrid? If it does and the current administration reduces or eliminates that, a hybrid won't be a low price.
     
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