not waiting for failure who builds a fully forged sleved gen 3 at this time

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  1. revinto7

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    where can i go for a fully built long block gen 3 coyote that can withstand 8000 rpm and twin turbo set up - I swore i would never do another allout build but i am so pissed about this and worried about this with my OCD and PTSD and since i cant trust this car im going to make it what i want now ,i will sit this engine with its 77 miles on a stand in my garage -now im on a mission so fuck ford and there shitty service and customer support .i wanted to do light mods and now i say screw it im all in .WHO BUILDS THE BEST MODULARS ..i had MMR build my last one in 08 they were great . are they still good ...
     
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    So.....what happened? Lol
     
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    NOTHING YET !! but why wait i bought this car to have fun with and do some bolt ons but after reading here i am not comfortable with what can happen i dont like to be un prepared of the what ifs ..so i am going to build a built motor and not worry and save the original for when i sell it like i did with my Shelby a few years ago ...
     
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    Stop reading internet car forums is my advice. 77 miles? Fear porn strikes again. OMG...
     
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    Agreed! For the few reporting problems here, there are tens of thousands out there with no issues. Reminds me of the cylinder #8 paranoia when the gen 1 coyote came out.
     
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    Same thing I saw happen when I was into Subaru's. Everyone screamed ringlands and glass tranny. Never had an issue and put 80k on my WRX at stage 2+.

    If your that worried about the car...DONT MOD IT. Wont be any fun if your always worried about blowing the car up.
     
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    Just hit 10k miles on mine...still no pistons left behind lol
     
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    ELLL OHHH ELLL
     
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    Are you off your meds? Not that many issues when compared to cars that are just fine running around on tunes and e85
     
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    H6G IN OMNIA PARATVS

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    Let’s just say that it’s as good as your LS3 in your SS.....
     
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    P.s. a 16 camaro has an LT1 not LS3 get it right :gossip:
    acctually my 2014 1LE had a cam LTs push rods and valve springs a melling HV oil pump and Paxton novi 1500 with alky on it for 3 years from 300 miles on stock bottom end Making 801/646 on a mustang dyno and no noises or issues .my 07 3v made 491/434 with a blower on stock bottom end 2 years no problems then i built it and made [email protected] with forged bottom end ported 3v heads /comp cams 14psi ..
     
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    Im on my MEDs brother !! Imagine if i wasnt ..
    :headbonk:
     
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    Then change the year of your SS under your username..... get it right.:gossip:
     
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    What is the OP driving now? Can we begin with that at least?
     
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    Even if you go completely through the engine it can still blow up. Guess who still holding the bag
     
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    That paranoid, sell the car.
     
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    lol.
    8k w turbos.
    no problem.

    Drive the stock motor 300 miles nice
    500 miles like you stole it
    do compression test
    change oil
    If any cylinder below 230#, keep it stock and drive it like stolen while in warranty till it breaks. If all above 230# and +/-5%, time for FI.

    6-7psi turbos on 93 octane is reliable to 50-100k mile daily or 2 track season (22hr on track time).
    above that you need E85 on at least two reliable pumps.
    If you run EGT sensors on all cylinders, you can tune to EGT to avoid needing to open motor and open ring gaps. 'Supposedly', stock ring gaps do not allow for 1700F EGT as they expand and bind and blow your ring lands out. Can be solved by either opening gaps, or wear the rings down over time before shooting for the moon (8 cylinders at 220#?, perfect, up the boost another psi and run for 3 more months, rinse repeat).

    For 8k+ rpm you need to upgrade the valve train and change the timing chains every 8-15hrs of track time.
    8k+ you need tensioners, chains, phasers, lash adjusters, TG (TSS profile-my $0.02), and valve spring possibly if aiming for 8500 constant track abuse.
    TG from TSS, rest from Ford including newly released lash adjusters and phasers, best FRPP tensioners, FRPP best chains, etc. There is also a new lower parasitic/low flow oil pump housing for those staying 6-8k on road course all the time.

    Stick w stock motor and if you grenade its 4.5k after core/shipping to swap LONG BLOCK W HEADS. If you only need short block without heads, cut that cost in half. Basically, you can blow up 5x short blocks for the price of building one crazy motor that you are going to need to pull anyway after the rings are shot. Just keep the crank hp below 1000hp.

    Now if you are going above 1000hp crank constantly, you need 10x wallet mod as the cost per hp goes up exponentially at that point.

    This is just my thoughts after running a Whipple to 7800 on road courses around Texas for two seasons. Not the fastest car in turns, but certainly the funnest (most black flags and 'meatball flags' on day two for power drifting out of low speed turns). Of course, you can spend $20k on 'buiding', but make sure that you like 'building' more than 'driving'. Nearing the 3 yr mark, first motor cylinder 8 was 180-200 and had another motor lined up, so pushed it and got surprised by trans not holding a 2-3 shift (should have lifted more, ooops). Hopped timing above 8400 rpm and broke crank. Beef up the valve train for cheap, and Ford will provide substantial HP per dollar.
     
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    FFS 77 miles... rather than worrying about rebuilding the engine, lets focus on other things like filling it up with fuel the first time.
     
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    What the hell is this post? Yelling you were going to do light mods but you "cant trust ford" acting like the car is a timebomb. But yet here you are with the car already bought.

    And despite saying you wanted light mods you are now trying to go fully built right out the gate?

    Calm down, figure out what you really want and go from there. Save the money and aus from the bad typing.
     
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    Go trade in your Mustang for a Camry if engine reliability is your biggest concern keeping you up at night.
     
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