nitrous on a 2017 mustang gt

[s550jc]

Hello guys just wanted to ask the nitrous guys if nitrous is really worth it, currently i'm full bolt on E85 and looking to go faster. Already shed some weight so next i'm thinking either nitrous or some form of forced induction. Currently buying a $5000 turbo kit or supercharger kit would be way too expensive so i looked into nitrous, emailed nitrous outlet and found a kit in the $700 area. I know how to install it so that won't be a problem however the car is a daily and of course i'd have a WOT sensor for the activation of nitrous.So again I'm just curious is nitrous really worth it? is having to fill up a 10lb bottle after 4-6 pulls worth it ? Now you nitrous guys that are currently on a nitrous set up and drive it a lot how many "pulls" does it really last ? Please someone inform me on your opinion on nitrous. Thanks

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[Shifting_Gears]

Nitrous appears quick and inexpensive on the surface, but to set up a safe kit, it costs a bit of money.

In addition to the kit itself and using a wide open throttle switch, there are a few other things you need to have a safe and reliable kit:

Tune: You need a nitrous specific tune. People claim you can run it with no tune on a smaller shot, but this is bad advice. You need to pull approx 2* of timing for every 50 shot of nitrous.

Fuel pressure safety switch: This will shut off the nitrous if the fuel pressure dips below the acceptable limit. This can literally save your engine in a number of seconds.

Window switch: Allows for a preset RPM range to turn nitrous on and off. Rule of thumb, don’t spray below 3,000 RPM and have it shut off a few hundred RPM before the limiter kicks in. Hitting the rev limiter on nitrous is bad and you cannot react fast enough to prevent an “oops” situation in most cases.

Bottle warmer: Nitrous is stored under extreme pressure in the bottle. In order for you to have the proper amount of nitrous flowing, there’s a specific pressure range the bottle needs to be at. If the ambient temp isn’t warm or hot, you need a bottle warmer to obtain optimum pressure.

There are nitrous controllers that take care of most of these functions all in one unit (except the warmer, maybe).

Regarding the bottle - depending on the size shot you run, probably 6-8 hits is about right. This is an often overlooked expense, as you always have to pay for a refill. There’s no refilling a supercharger or turbo.

Lastly - and this is strictly opinion mixed with some fact, I would personally not ever consider nitrous for my GT. Been there, done that on my old GT. The fun factor is a 10/10 unless something goes wrong. There’s a very small margin of error with nitrous.

It is by far the hardest on your engine, clutch, transmission and rear end. The instant shock of the hit is carried by the whole drivetrain. Prepare for needing a better clutch, at minimum, because the stocker will not like the massive torque hit for long.

Lastly, there’s almost no worse way to devalue the car. Once people find out it’s been sprayed (or a dealer, if you sell or trade), people assume the worst. This may not matter to you, but it’s important to know.

 

[beefcake]

Hello guys just wanted to ask the nitrous guys if nitrous is really worth it, currently i'm full bolt on E85 and looking to go faster. Already shed some weight so next i'm thinking either nitrous or some form of forced induction. Currently buying a $5000 turbo kit or supercharger kit would be way too expensive so i looked into nitrous, emailed nitrous outlet and found a kit in the $700 area. I know how to install it so that won't be a problem however the car is a daily and of course i'd have a WOT sensor for the activation of nitrous.So again I'm just curious is nitrous really worth it? is having to fill up a 10lb bottle after 4-6 pulls worth it ? Now you nitrous guys that are currently on a nitrous set up and drive it a lot how many "pulls" does it really last ? Please someone inform me on your opinion on nitrous. Thanks

Nitrous is a good way to add a little more power and shave some time off as well. If done right it's not a bad option either, we've ran kits on a few of our shop cars along with a ton of customers running kits. We have a few kits we can help out with as well.

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[NGOT8R]

Yes it’s worth it! I run a 150 shot on my Bullitt on E85 and my car dyno’d at 639 rwhp/602 rwtq. The 10 lb bottle doesn’t last very long. Between 4-6 good pulls is about right. If you wanted to get a little more out of it, you could step up to a 15 lb bottle. As @Shifting_Gears mentioned, a custom tune, window switch, fuel pressure safety switch, bottle heater and even colder spark plugs are recommended. I also run a BAP to be extra safe. Cost to fill a 10 lb bottle is about $80.

 

[NGOT8R]

I also forgot to mention that to do it right will run you considerably more than $700. I have over $4K in my system, including the custom nitrous tune.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/coming-soon-nitrous-install-on-my-fbo-2019-bullitt.151347/

 

[MKL_DS]

There are kits like the NOS one that include the controller and fuel pressure safety switch (not necessary IMO). The controller handles window switch and has 2 programmable ramp rates to soften the initial hit. When set up properly these allows for full traction and optimal performance. If you live in a warmer climate a bottle heater is not needed.

Stuff only breaks when you don’t pay attention to what you are doing. A 100-150 shot in no way is more dangerous than adding 300 whp with boost.

 

[NGOT8R]

@s550jc, what kind of power are you looking to make and how big of a nitrous shot are you planning to spray? If you want to save a little coin on the kit, a wet kit nozzle kit would be cheaper than a plate kit. On my 2013 GT I used a wet nozzle kit with a NANO system and an NOS mini controller which was programmable like @MKL_DS mentioned. If you’re going to use nitrous only during hot weather, a bottle blanket can serve to get the temps up as needed. Theoretically, you could tune the kit via the nitrous and fuel jets, without actually getting a custom tune on the car, but I would be very careful to sneak up on the tune.

 

[s550jc]

@s550jc, what kind of power are you looking to make and how big of a nitrous shot are you planning to spray? If you want to save a little coin on the kit, a wet kit nozzle kit would be cheaper than a plate kit. On my 2013 GT I used a wet nozzle kit with a NANO system and an NOS mini controller which was programmable like @MKL_DS mentioned. If you’re going to use nitrous only during hot weather, a bottle blanket can serve to get the temps up as needed. Theoretically, you could tune the kit via the nitrous and fuel jets, without actually getting a custom tune on the car, but I would be very careful to sneak up on the tune.

Max a 150 shot which would put me at around 600-630whp

 

[NGOT8R]

Max a 150 shot which would put me at around 600-630whp

Cool! Get er done and let the fun begin.

 

[Sgray0913]

What about adding like a very small shot. Like 25hp-35hp.. ? I have a flex fuel tune and and typically only do like a e30-e40ish “blend” ( maybe 3-4 gallons of e85 ) that’s if I go out of my way to get. I Normally just use my 93 tune.

my question is do I need to get a whole new tune for a small shot? Or would the flex fuel tune give me enough leeway?
Yes I’m aware that it’s “probably not worth it”. But this is something I wanted to do for just that few extra HP and trying not to go all out on.

thanks guys!

 

[NGOT8R]

Technically, you can run a wet system without a tune if you jet it appropriately. Rule of thumb is, retard the timing 2* for every 50 hp of nitrous. That being said, if you have a handheld tuner, you can pull 2* of timing and be good to go (again, with the correct jetting of course). If you’re going to do it, though, why not spray at least a 75 shot?

 

[WildHorse]

Up to a 100 shot you don't even need a tune. The PCM can handle it very well. I would go with at least 93 octane & a BAP just for safety sake.

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