New Shelby American GT350

[robvas]

I can get a Catzkin leather seat cover kit with embroidery installed for $2,000 max. Did this to our old Tundra when they didn't have the options we wanted in a vehicle with leather.

and the best part is, that's all Shelby is using...Katskinz!

quote this so @Bikeman315 can see it, since he thought Katzkins weren't comparable to SHELBY SEAT COVERS

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[Inthehighdesert]

Honest question. What car or cars do you own?

and the best part is, that's all Shelby is using...Katskinz!

quote this so @Bikeman315 can see it, since he thought Katzkins weren't comparable to SHELBY SEAT COVERS

 

[Paddles]

I really never thought I would say this but...
I prefer the Dark Horse.

 

[robvas]

Honest question. What car or cars do you own?

Why do you care and what does it matter?

 

[robvas]

None of this car is worth the price of it's components combined. None of thr Shekby cars ever are. You're paying a premium for the shop name, but unlike other shops that have built their names on actual recent performance and in house developed parts, SA is still riding on the wave of their namesake and the only "development" they're doing is new bodykits. All of their mechanical goods re just relabeled parts from other companies.

This is all Shelby American has been for the last 20 years. Adding a couple parts to an existing car. And charging a huge premium for it. Somewhere along the line, they developed a following with a certain group of Mustang owners.

So nobody should be surprised that this is a continuation of the same thing. The next one will be more of the same.

it really just is a lower priced Super Snake.

 

[gone_n_60]

So who bought tickets for the giveaway? I got mine! (sucker)

 

[Inthehighdesert]

Why won’t you say? It’s simple, actually. The ones with the biggest opinions(hint hint) and advice are the last to ever actually open their wallet. If you haven’t or aren’t ever going to be in the market for anything like this or any other car it’s pointless. Your not buying anyway. Makes about as much sense as me getting on a Porsche site and running my mouth on what rennlist should do when I’m never buying a car in the first place. And Im not a fan of SA per se. And if you’re so talented on fiscal matters and producing a vehicle jump in the game and demonstrate how it should be done.

Why do you care and what does it matter?

 

[Angrey]

We can hate and gatekeep all we want but lets just appreciate the fact that in this generation of EV mandates and offerings, SA is still around selling these machines, even if they are marked up, with hopefully a new Boss or Cobra variant from Ford to add to the mix soon. Would rather split hairs about what is a "real Shelby" instead of seeing the slow decay of ICE.

This is a bit of battered wife syndrome.

Regardless of what is happening in the car market at large, people are right to judge a product based upon A) How much it costs B) How much you get and C).a. How this compares to previous product versions and C).b. how this compares to other alternatives.

Saying "well it's not what I had hoped for or expected, but it's better than nothing" is like saying "yeah, he still beats me, but it's only once a week now instead of daily and so I'm thankful for that."

 

[robvas]

Why won’t you say? It’s simple, actually. The ones with the biggest opinions(hint hint) and advice are the last to ever actually open their wallet. If you haven’t or aren’t ever going to be in the market for anything like this or any other car it’s pointless. Your not buying anyway.

I've had a ton of Mustangs, from Fox bodies to Terminator Cobras. Mostly modified/supercharged etc. If you click on my username you can see my profile has a my current car, a 2011 Mustang GT listed.

I would never, even spend $109,000 on Mustang, especially a $45k GT with $15k worth of bolt-ons. I'm not a doofus willing to overpay for the Shelby name. (Shelby of America, not a Ford-produced Shelby that would be worth it)

Why would anyone buy one of those when you could get a low mileage S550 for less?

But either way, that means I can't say it's a ripoff? Okay buddy.

 

[Tucker80]

Why won’t you say? It’s simple, actually. The ones with the biggest opinions(hint hint) and advice are the last to ever actually open their wallet. If you haven’t or aren’t ever going to be in the market for anything like this or any other car it’s pointless. Your not buying anyway. Makes about as much sense as me getting on a Porsche site and running my mouth on what rennlist should do when I’m never buying a car in the first place. And Im not a fan of SA per se. And if you’re so talented on fiscal matters and producing a vehicle jump in the game and demonstrate how it should be done.

Please let us know what at what gross income our opinions become valid?

Poor peoples opinions dont matter... Very classy. Well done sir

 

[Skeptic14]

If people's negative opinons of this car who don't have 109k to drop on it don't count, why would the positive opinions of those without 109k count?

I can't wait to see the cheerleadres in here post when they get one, cause 109k buys a whole lot more car than a gt with a supercharger...

 

[EoDevil]

This is a bit of battered wife syndrome.

Regardless of what is happening in the car market at large, people are right to judge a product based upon A) How much it costs B) How much you get and C).a. How this compares to previous product versions and C).b. how this compares to other alternatives.

Saying "well it's not what I had hoped for or expected, but it's better than nothing" is like saying "yeah, he still beats me, but it's only once a week now instead of daily and so I'm thankful for that."

Of course you have the right to complain, I'm just trying to stay positive. Bit of a reach jumping to battered wife syndrome there. I'd rather drop that $ on a Porsche, personally, but I still think its cool they are keeping them around.

 

[Angrey]

Of course you have the right to complain, I'm just trying to stay positive. Bit of a reach jumping to battered wife syndrome there. I'd rather drop that $ on a Porsche, personally, but I still think its cool they are keeping them around.

The problem with "staying positive" is that you're distorting the market. Every reaction to a product is feedback to those that participate in the market. So if someone creates a less than stellar product and people go "gee shucks, it's better than the alternative" that's not the quite the message that's received when people either overpay or consume less than desirable products. What the producer views is "hey, that worked, let's do it again."

So whether it's a shitty movie remake that you went to see because you loved the original or a corporation that dilutes a product (for the same price) or now with new vehicle offerings that don't quite live up to the expectations of the recent past, the message you may be sending is different than the message they're receiving.

Basically, if you don't communicate honest and accurate feedback, you're just encouraging more of it.

It has little to do with being cynical or grumpy or negative. If a product is valuable, there's no need to campaign for it or try to qualify things or explain away drawbacks. It'll sell because it has value.

And not for nothing, regardless of all the moaning in here, trust in that Shelby will sell every one of these. The marketplace is chocked full of people with more money than sense.

They're not alone. Look at the GTD program. Badass car. Worth the $325k+ and the invite only process? Meh, maybe.

Ford took what was always a punch above it's weight vehicle and said "let's sell a $325k car to compete with other $325k cars." Yawn. Now, if they'd have made a $160k car that beats up on other $300k cars, we'd all be drooling over it. That's high value.

But when you take an economy seat on a flight that retails for $350 and you give it more leg room, special boarding privileges, complimentary baggage inclusions, a special dedicated flight attendant, free drinks and amenities and now you sell it for $1200, congratulations, you've just created a business class seat that sells for what other business class seats sell for. Yawn. Anyone can do that.

What made/makes pony cars (and the mustang) in general formidable is the VALUE in you get a lot more performance for less than other brands/models.

So at $120k, the value in the new SA GT350 is........yawn. Any of us, literally ANY of us can replicate that car for the same price or less. Just without the fancy badge and name. That isn't value.

Value is when you go, "man, there's no way I or anyone else could replicate that for the price they're selling it at."

You want to impress the marketplace? Don't offer us a five star hotel room for the same price as other five star hotel rooms. Offer us the 5 star room for the 3 star price. THAT is impressive and valuable.

 

[EoDevil]

Yeah guy its not that deep. My perhaps contrarian opinion won't move the needle in either direction. I only made the comment it was nice having the choice in ICE cars still. Buy one or don't, I don't care. They will sell either way, like you said.

 

[dnstommy]

As an existing '19 350 owner, this car is a pretty big let down. The 15-20 GT350 and the 20-22 GT500 were special cars; VooDoo and DCT respectively. Both the VooDoo and the DCT were designed and build by Ford. No company had those on the shelf and Ford used them. This new 350 is a bolt on car I can 85% build myself for less. These cars should be rare and special.

To me a company like Shelby doesn't have the R&D budget of Ford and can't come up with a truly special car. I'll keep my '19 for 1/2 the price.

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