New Shelby American GT350

[Bikeman315]

My car is demonized? Who knew? Better question.. Who cares.
Besides, it can’t be a Demon because it isn’t a Dodge.

Exactly, who cares!! But I’m sure you vividly remember all the “parts bin” threads on the Mach 1. Some folks on here, most no longer around, ripped the car apart. And they were sooooo wrong.

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[Bikeman315]

The difference is there is much more of an aftermarket now than there used to be, so people can do the same (or better) on their own or with the tuner of their choice. And usually at a significantly lower price.

And specialty companies can do less and still stay within the law and regulations. And let’s not forget the full manufacturers warranty. You do what Shelby has done and it’s possible, not a certainty, that parts of the warranty will be gone.

 

[Bikeman315]

Well, from the reception - they're not unlocking the door and turning on the light for many people. Most folks love Pagani, koenigsegg, etc. and will never purchase one. At a minimum, I think its safe to say their marketing sucks. If the cars really are worth the money and have more development in them, their marketing isn't conveying that.

Well the door appears locked on this forum. That said I understand that SA is doing well so it seems we do not account for much.

 

[MAGS1]

And specialty companies can do less and still stay within the law and regulations. And let’s not forget the full manufacturers warranty. You do what Shelby has done and it’s possible, not a certainty, that parts of the warranty will be gone.

No doubt, especially regarding the warranty. Just a matter of whether someone is willing to pay the price tag for that. And it’s a hefty price tag

 

[5.2 liters of democracy]

I don’t know that I’d call them trash (well, maybe the Super Snake vert that cracked, that’s no good and R&D would’ve/should’ve shown that weakness early on). SA products are geared towards a very targeted market. People that want the CSM or want certain features that are Shelby exclusive (widebody package as one example). As far as performance features, yeah they’re not doing something that someone can’t do with a blower and a tune. But the Shelby name does still carry some weight and there’s value to the CSM to a certain part of the market.

As others have mentioned, what SA is doing now isn’t all that different than what they did back in the 60’s. The difference is there is much more of an aftermarket now than there used to be, so people can do the same (or better) on their own or with the tuner of their choice. And usually at a significantly lower price.

You kind of outline the problem I have with SA as a whole. Every time SA releases some car, they tease it like it isn't just a 5.0 with a blower. The weight the name used to carry was performance, now it is resale value to an extraordinarily small percentage of the population. If this was an N/A 5.4 liter with an SLA, I'd fork over the money for it and be pretty stoked. That's what I think would be in line with the history of Shelby vehicles, not another supercharged coyote. Also, nothing against the coyote, they stay together way better than the voodoo.

 

[robvas]

Speaking of warranty...

 

[robvas]

 

[S550VIN54]

Super Snakes are sold via dealerships. Don’t be surprised if some of these are ordered by dealerships as well. Probably not the R’s, since those are being limited to 36 units.

From what I understand the R' are going to be exclusively sold by SA and the others are going to be sold by authorized Shelby dealerships. Expect adm's so $109k is wishful thinking .

 

[MAGS1]

From what I understand the R' are going to be exclusively sold by SA and the others are going to be sold by authorized Shelby dealerships. Expect adm's so $109k is wishful thinking .

That makes sense, especially with the extremely limited number of R’s

 

[robvas]

I think you nailed. Some people just want that CSM. Even if the VIN comes back as a GT from factory, the Shelby registry does have value to some folks. I considered it for my GT, although my motivation was more the looks than the CSM. Now, I can buy 90% of the package from SA at a fraction of what they charge. It really comes down to if you want that CSM or some of the exclusive parts that comes with their packages.

The CSM reminds me of the line from Tommy boy:

Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will.

 

[IPOGT]

Exactly, who cares!! But I’m sure you vividly remember all the “parts bin” threads on the Mach 1. Some folks on here, most no longer around, ripped the car apart. And they were sooooo wrong.

Really, I think those comments are funny. Personally, I think the Mach 1 is built as though we had a cousin in Ford management who got some friend in the plant together with Ford Performance to build a special mustang.

 

[qwiknotch]

Mach 1 > Gt350

 

[robvas]

Didn't the "parts bin" stuff from the Mach 1 come from the GT350/500 cars?

Plus Ford actually like...tested those parts on cars on the track.

Besides, none of the Mach 1/DH stuff is on the Shelby GT350, so it's a bad, bad comparison.

 

[BlkMach10510]

Didn't the "parts bin" stuff from the Mach 1 come from the GT350/500 cars?

Plus Ford actually like...tested those parts on cars on the track.

Besides, none of the Mach 1/DH stuff is on the Shelby GT350, so it's a bad, bad comparison.

This is what i have gathered about the parts that make up the Mach 1:

BULLITT

Engine – Modified Bullitt Engine

MUSTANG GT

Front Control Arms

Hubs

Bearings

MUSTANG GT PERFORMANCE PACK 2

Spoiler (Base Mach 1)

Brembo Six-Piston Front Brakes (Calibrated ESC for Base Mach 1 and ABS/ESC for HP)

Engine Spun Aluminum Instrument Panel

Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)

Heavy-Duty Front Springs

K-Brace

Larger Radiator

Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace

TORSEN Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)

TORSEN Differential with 3.55 Axle Ratio (Automatic) (PP1)

Upsized Rear Sway Bar

Front Splitter

Knuckles

Brake Booster

SHELBY GT350/GT350R

Air Intake

Intake Manifold

Engine Oil Cooler

Oil-Filter Adapter

TREMEC Six-Speed Manual Transmission

Throttle Body

Transmission Cooler

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 Tires (Mach 1 Handling Package) (GT350R)

Lower Front Vents

Tire Fitment (Mach 1 Handling Package)

Incandescent Park/Turn Lamps

Adjustable Camber Plates (Mach 1 Handling Package)

Differential Cooler (GT350R)

Front and Rear Subframe with Stiffer Bushings

Rear Toe Link

SHELBY GT500

Rear Axle Cooling System

Rear Lower Diffuser

Rear Tire Spats

S’wing with Gurney Flap (Mach 1 Handling Package)

Splined Intermediate Steering Shaft

Bushings

MACH 1 UNIQUE

Exhaust Tips (4.5”)

Mufflers

Unique Chassis Tuning

Unique Stability Control, EPAS, and ABS Tuning

 

[BlkMach10510]

The mustang itself is a parts bin car. The AC Shelby Cobra was a parts bin car.

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