Enzo
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Hey Guys!
I wanted to provide some insight on where the ticking noise comes from exactly.
This occurred on my 2016 GT PP1 and I ended up getting a new motor after some back and forth with Ford. The tick originally started after my 2nd or 3rd mustang, and it was right after it also happened to a friend of mine who had a s197 GT. It started pretty light only could here it from time to time. I first began my exam with opening up the oil filter, which some very light metal shavings, but was difficult to see. I drove it for while until it was time for another oil change and the second go around I went back from mobil1 to motorcraft and also added a BG oil additive that Ford sells. I let that run for about 1k miles and the tick then slowly started getting worse. After it became so pronounced that I not only heard it from inside the garage or driving next to a wall or car, but it would be loud enough that I could hear it sitting inside my car. I then took it to the dealer, I knew before going there that this wasn't normal mechanics for the motor and that something catastrophic would eventually happen. When I arrived at the dealer I had already prepared myself to be very defensive and brought in all the research I could that I had done on the car. Dealer's first repose was naturally to say that it was normal. Right from there we got into a little argument, but none the less back onto the tick. I told the dealer it came from the crankshaft area and specifically on piston 8 area. Dealer did a bore scope and found very light scoring on the walls (which I found out at the very end when the motor replacement was offered, and not when they actually did it. They told me they didn't find anything alarming.) and keep in mind this is only with 13k Miles at this point. I told them I'm going to leave my car keys with them and do not want the car back until it is fixed. They kept it for about a week and said they couldn't find anything, I proceeded to tell them I will not pick the car up until they find a solution or I will file suit. They then told me that they will have to open the motor up, and my response to them was that I had no issue with that, but they would need to have to supply me with a new motor if they were going to open the motor apart for their own research. They agreed since they knew there was a real issue at this point in the game.
What they found was very interesting and makes a lot of sense on the ticking noise....
When they opened the motor up, they noticed that the crankshaft had random extra clearance spacing causing it from time to time to touch. Which explains the sporadic sound of the ticking noise. They said they noticed as much as double the clearance. My theory on this since a lot of people are experiencing this, seems that Ford has a major manufacturing issue issue with the bottom end on these, it also makes sense as to why the GT350 does not have the same issue because it has a completely different bottom end from the coyote 5.0L.
That was my experience with it, now I do own a 2018 Mustang GT PP1. Irregardless of the tick I really enjoy the mustang, and that is why I went back to it. My 16 I ended up selling due to feeling uncomfortable to it being opened up and having a replaced motor. If my 18 repeats history, I will end up filing a lemon law on it and probably leave Ford all together until they can get this sorted out.
For those in Florida, I went to Ron Norris Titusville to get this work done. After we got passed the fact that this wasn't normal, they were very helpful in getting my motor fixed.
I wanted to provide some insight on where the ticking noise comes from exactly.
This occurred on my 2016 GT PP1 and I ended up getting a new motor after some back and forth with Ford. The tick originally started after my 2nd or 3rd mustang, and it was right after it also happened to a friend of mine who had a s197 GT. It started pretty light only could here it from time to time. I first began my exam with opening up the oil filter, which some very light metal shavings, but was difficult to see. I drove it for while until it was time for another oil change and the second go around I went back from mobil1 to motorcraft and also added a BG oil additive that Ford sells. I let that run for about 1k miles and the tick then slowly started getting worse. After it became so pronounced that I not only heard it from inside the garage or driving next to a wall or car, but it would be loud enough that I could hear it sitting inside my car. I then took it to the dealer, I knew before going there that this wasn't normal mechanics for the motor and that something catastrophic would eventually happen. When I arrived at the dealer I had already prepared myself to be very defensive and brought in all the research I could that I had done on the car. Dealer's first repose was naturally to say that it was normal. Right from there we got into a little argument, but none the less back onto the tick. I told the dealer it came from the crankshaft area and specifically on piston 8 area. Dealer did a bore scope and found very light scoring on the walls (which I found out at the very end when the motor replacement was offered, and not when they actually did it. They told me they didn't find anything alarming.) and keep in mind this is only with 13k Miles at this point. I told them I'm going to leave my car keys with them and do not want the car back until it is fixed. They kept it for about a week and said they couldn't find anything, I proceeded to tell them I will not pick the car up until they find a solution or I will file suit. They then told me that they will have to open the motor up, and my response to them was that I had no issue with that, but they would need to have to supply me with a new motor if they were going to open the motor apart for their own research. They agreed since they knew there was a real issue at this point in the game.
What they found was very interesting and makes a lot of sense on the ticking noise....
When they opened the motor up, they noticed that the crankshaft had random extra clearance spacing causing it from time to time to touch. Which explains the sporadic sound of the ticking noise. They said they noticed as much as double the clearance. My theory on this since a lot of people are experiencing this, seems that Ford has a major manufacturing issue issue with the bottom end on these, it also makes sense as to why the GT350 does not have the same issue because it has a completely different bottom end from the coyote 5.0L.
That was my experience with it, now I do own a 2018 Mustang GT PP1. Irregardless of the tick I really enjoy the mustang, and that is why I went back to it. My 16 I ended up selling due to feeling uncomfortable to it being opened up and having a replaced motor. If my 18 repeats history, I will end up filing a lemon law on it and probably leave Ford all together until they can get this sorted out.
For those in Florida, I went to Ron Norris Titusville to get this work done. After we got passed the fact that this wasn't normal, they were very helpful in getting my motor fixed.
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