New LT1 V8 trim for 2020 Camaro

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    Not to confuse this any more than the wizards at Chevy Marketing, but....
    • 1LT is a base Chevrolet vehicle trim. That is available with either the 2.0T L4 or the 3.6 V6
    • LT1 is a 6.2L V8 standard in the Corvette Stingray and Corvette Grand Sport as well as the Camaro SS. For 2020 it will be OPTIONAL in the Camaro 1LT
    • LT1 is also the model designation for the 1LT with optional LT1.
      • The LT1 model does not use the 2.0T or the 3.6L
    Not confusing at all (Thanx Chevy Mktg :facepalm: )
     
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    I had to read that like 3-4x to get it clear in my head. But then again, I don't really pay attention to trim levels, unless I am looking for something specific.
     
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    I've said it before, but if you're driving a car that doesn't have the A/C, carpet, radio, etc., stripped out of it, then absolute track performance isn't your primary concern. You're compromising your performance for other things that you find to be worth the trade-off. With that, just about all the things that make the Mustangs less capable track cars (mostly cooling) can be addressed with more money, but virtually none of the things that make the Camaro a less desirable car for many to own can be addressed by any amount of money. I can see that being a draw for some people to buy the Mustang over the Camaro, but it really depends on your priorities and personal tastes. That, and of course the fact that most buyers don't track either car.

    It is frustrating that Ford offered the base GT350 at what seemed to be a pretty reasonable MSRP, but the market and dealers went crazy with it.
     
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    This is basically any dealer with any type of halo car. Dodge tried to prevent this with the Demon, but a workaround was found by the dealers.
     
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    Why???? He's the wealthiest, vacation takingist, coolest guy on the interwebs.
     
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    Ahh good point :D
     
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    He's also the biggest :asshat: on the interwebs
     
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    If you’re driving a car that is street-legal, then absolute track performance isn’t your primary concern.
     
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    Grand Sport has the LT1, ZO6 has the LT4, ZR1 the LT5
     
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    I passed on the 1LE because the Camaro styling sucks IMHO and doesn't appeal to me from any angle. Say what you want, But I'm happy when I see this in my garage: IMG_4608.jpg
     
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    It looks good, but all the track oriented upgrades are pointless without proper cooling. If you like it strictly for the looks then that makes sense. You may be shocked at the invoice when you go to replace those tires though. They aren't great for strictly street driving.

    I like the way both cars look. I've never had a bone to pick with that.
     
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    That’s why if I were to buy a PP2, first thing I’d do is replace the wheels and tires and store them away for track duty. Probably go a bit narrower on the fronts to reduce the tramlining. Second thing would be to get coolers installed. Then I’d have a car that would make a really nice daily driver, but be track ready with a wheel and tire change.
     
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    I forgot about the PP2 class action lawsuit :D

    I wonder how it is going so far.
     
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    I don't like the SXT name, but the rest are pretty good in my opinion. Dodge is doing a good job and their sales reflect it. Especially without any major redesigns.
     
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    Yes, most of those are good names. But it begs the question, "how thin can you slice a loaf of bread?" All those models on each of two nameplates? That's even more scary than BMW's X1 --> X7 utility portfolio.
     
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    I am kinda confused. What will be the difference between 1ss vs 1lt both having the lt1 engines? 1ss weights 3680 lbs with 465 lbs engine weight and comes standard with brembo brakes and fe6 suspension i believe. 1lt with v6 weights 3354 lbs with 370 lbs engine weight. So if we assume the 1lt will gain 200 lbs with engine upgrade supporting modes, then we are looking at a mid 3500 lbs 455 hp 455 lbft lighter v8 camaro?
     
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    Dodge has trimmed that down a bit, unified a few variants, there’s 9 models on the Challenger, and 3 are simply the widebody variant (could’ve just been an option under the models where that’s applicable).
     
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    Probably. But it will be on all-season tires and will likely have Brembos optional, as opposed to standard, and will likely come without all the coolers SS has. The SS handling package will also be optional. So it’ll be equipped more along the lines of a base Mustang GT. It should be lighter than SS without all of the content that is standard on the 1SS and especially 2SS and should prove to be more of a modding platform.
     
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    Apparently no one actually read the full list...:facepalm::giggle:
     
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