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Move it to the correct forum and it will die. Needs to be in the General Automotive Topics (non 6th Gen Mustang) forum.I was really hoping this thread would die..........
So, I'm just trying to forget it exists. So please stop posting in this thread
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Well, as the thread was started by Jarstang (site owner) I'll leave it where it is
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Maybe he's planning on buying one, lol.Well, as the thread was started by Jarstang (site owner) I'll leave it where it is
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Well..............Well, as the thread was started by Jarstang (site owner) I'll leave it where it is
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First thought . . . how many rpms is Enzo spinning at?
Second thought . . . is Ferrari patenting this for their own use or is it mainly for the licensing value?
Third thought . . . I have some grasp of what can be accomplished by torque vectoring. The part that concerns me is that it could be used to crutch the handling behavior of a vehicle whose handling isn't as good as it should be on a strictly mechanical level. Toyota's GX460 of a few years back comes to mind as an example where electronics have already been used to "fix" what should have been solved in the mechanical tuning of its original suspension before it went into regular production. No thanks.
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Not exactly..
As electronics-heavy as cars are getting, they are still mechanical contrivances at their core, and my point is that the mechanical side needs to be made right first. Only then would you add electronic interventions. Worst case, and utterly wrong philosophically, is that it would be possible to design a car that could have truly evil handling characteristics in the hands of a novice driver (1st gen Corvair, anybody?) that gets reined back into an approximation of acceptability with electronic calibrations that severely limit the performance envelope.
Toyota did not fix the GX's basic handling shortcoming. Instead, they chose to put an electronic band-aid on it and called it done (I'm sure it was much less extensive and expensive to do it that way). Now consider that as soon as a wheel sensor or a yaw sensor or any other source of electronic input takes a dump, it's going to rip that nice electronic handling band-aid right off with it. Now you're right back to why there was a recall in the first place.
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Not terribly surprising, given that so many people would rather do as little as possible (physically) to get from here to there.
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