Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

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    Pretty much solidified for me to get a refreshed s550. A hybrid mustang is gonna weigh more than 2 ton of bricks.
     
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    I don't think this version automatically means that there won't be another V8 mustang.
     
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    V8 will be the new V6 line up but eventually axed out too.
     
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    While i do agree that hybrid batteries add weight one thing to be aware of is how the weight is added. Traditionally it is very well distributed and also very low to the ground lowering COG. For me it comes down to performance, but the world is changing, La Ferrari, P1, 918, Lambo Urus, as long as i don't have to give up performance i care less about the method used to get there.

    My Current v6 family sedan makes more HP than a v8 mustang from the 80's with less cylinders and better fuel economy, change is a good thing.
     
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    The rear-drive hybrid platform has been in development since 2014, so yes, you're correct. It has nothing to do with the election or anything like that. The US could go dodo brain and regress on everything but most of the carmakers would stay the course, as Europe is still trending the same way and most vehicles & powertrains are global platforms.
     
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    i agree with you on that.more things to go wrong and,the cost will be high.for years they are pricing the mustang out of alot of peoples hands.this monkey see monkey do crap in the auto industry is pathetic.self driving cars is one of the most stupid things ever.at this rate of stupidity,there will be people growing up never knowing how to DRIVE a car.:tsk::crazy:
     
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    First, our electrical grid cannot, in any way, shape or form, handle even 10% of cars being 100% electric. The grid can't handle it. It would cost trillions to update and upgrade our electrical grid to handle the majority of cars being electric. And where does the electricity come from? Gas, coal and nuclear powered plants.

    It's also common knowledge that hybrid/battery cars are worse for the environment than regular gasoline vehicles, over the complete life-span.

    Second, just because Ford is announcing a "hybrid" Mustang, doesn't mean the V8 is going away. It's just going to be an option.

    Third, Ford and other companies "announce" all sorts of stuff that never end up happening. This announcement is probably more of a political statement concerning the EPA mandates coming up in 2020.

    Fourth, the world has plenty of gas. Plenty. The days of petrol engines are nowhere near over. The days of V8 gas cars will end when bullshit PC enviro-mandates kill them.
     
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    Indeed. My mind goes to the Porsche 918. Can't think of a way to criticize that, except it's likely to cost $50k or more.
     
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    I'm all for more low end TQ!!
     
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    Coupled with a twin turbo v6 , and a decent auto gearbox (e.g. PDK) , this thing could be a track monster.
     
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    Really? More electronics, and they can't even get Sync to operate properly?
     
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    It's going to be tough mentally having a muscle car without the growl.

    But I think the 918 etc have proven that hybrids are even faster than naturally aspirated alone cars. The 918 proves you can have a smaller displacement V8 hybrid car making 800hp+ and getting 67mpg EV mode and 22mg gasoline. So average, what, 43mpg?

    Look at the BMW i8, 1.5L 3 cylinder engine making 357hp and hybrid 0-60 in 4.0sec faster than a Mustang GT. And gets 78mpg EV/gas combined.

    I still think Ford could make a decent sounding V6 (the Ford GT has a pretty nice sound for a V6) and EV with huge torque and power at the same time. The mustang being heavier (i8 is 3455lbs) will need a bit more than a 3cyl engine.

    I would be in for more hp/tq than a 5.0 and double the mpg.
     
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    I sell my S550 when I can get it in all wheel drive! :D
     
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    I wouldn't expect TT v6 + electric motors. I bet it's NA 3.7 v6 300HP + 150HP electric motors = same ole 450HP (V8 like performance):doh:
     
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    I'm all for technological advancements and progress. The ecoboost was one of the things that attracted me to the Mustang in the first place. But I've had a hybrid vehicle, and the hybrid battery wore out twice in 6 years for a total of 3 batteries needed over 70,000 miles. They were under warranty, but it wasn't a pleasant ownership experience, and I won't go back to battery tech until it matures more.
     
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    There's no way they'll bring back the 3.7L V6. If they're shooting for 450 hp then it'll be the EcoBoost 2.3 or 2.7 with electricity.
     
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    Currently all Ford hybrids have a standard 8 year 100K mile warranty on the battery. This type of support is used to make traditional buyers comfortable with the hybrid technology.
     
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    #98 chain, Jan 3, 2017
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    It sounds great as long as the power is there which I'm sure it will be.

    While it sounds good, what is lost in being able to modify and work on the car yourself? I personally fear for the future of sports cars because of technology. Some of it I think is great while there are other things that frankly scare me. How about all of the nanny systems they have now? Systems that manipulate your brakes and steering for you. All great things in daily driving assuming they work right. Things that can also spell disaster if they go haywire going down the highway or around a racetrack. Right now I can buy a car without these systems but I don't think that will be the case for long.

    Personally I believe the day will come where you won't be able to drive yourself anywhere. I think autonomous cars will be mandated by the government one day because it's "safer" for us.

    I am sure many will read this and think I am a nut job or something. Trust me I hope I am wrong. Personally I think this is a great time for cars but I do feel we are at the highpoint. Great things are coming but I also fear that there are going to be a lot of not so good things coming with it, some of which won't be an option.

    Edit: Just wanted to add my wife's Fusion had all kinds of issues with it's blind spot sensors which we were told was related to the sync. This didn't make me feel any better about all of the added "goodies" to the electrical system.
     
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    They should nickname it the 'Musk Mustang'
     
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    Here is the Mule they will be testing. FB_IMG_1483466411357.jpg
     
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