Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

[dron_jones]

Isn't that a question that Ford has to anticipate will be answered in the affirmative? I can see a round or two of study putting a temporary hold on release to the public unless they've already gone through whatever scenarios might either directly or indirectly reduce demand for hybrids and such and have a greenlight under those as well.


Norm

Absolutely, it happens multiple times as part of the stage gate process to bring something to market. My point is that this analysis is based on assumptions and while yes it would have already gotten the green light based on these assumptions and insights, it won't be until actual sales start that they will see how correct their insights and assumptions were.

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[Topnotch]

http://www.lexus.com/documents/brochures/2017/LC_LC-Hybrid-Press-Release-v1.pdf
http://www.lexus.com/concept/LC/

Could mimic Lexus with a 5.0 V8 (471/398) and a 3.5 V6 Hybrid (354/348)...

 

[Twin Turbo]

And[/] the Lexus has a 10-speed auto. Amazing how similar the specs are to the new Mustang!

 

[xjester]

http://www.lexus.com/documents/brochures/2017/LC_LC-Hybrid-Press-Release-v1.pdf
http://www.lexus.com/concept/LC/

Could mimic Lexus with a 5.0 V8 (471/398) and a 3.5 V6 Hybrid (354/348)...

Not normally a fan of Lexus but that thing is beautiful. Price tag will likely change that.

 

[cbrookre]

Not normally a fan of Lexus but that thing is beautiful. Price tag will likely change that.

The stance is nice, but the front-end is still a jumbled mess of angles to me...

 

[Topnotch]

http://www.motor1.com/news/137773/infiniti-renault-f1-q60-concept/

"Electrification is provided by separate motor generator units capable of storing the energy from braking and exhaust gas heat — that would otherwise be lost — in a lithium-ion battery pack. It’s then deployed to power the crankshaft as well as the turbo compressor to give the concept more oomph."

 

[Kevin08]

Not normally a fan of Lexus but that thing is beautiful. Price tag will likely change that.

Front of it looks like the predator.

 

[Dary]

http://www.motor1.com/news/137773/infiniti-renault-f1-q60-concept/

"Electrification is provided by separate motor generator units capable of storing the energy from braking and exhaust gas heat — that would otherwise be lost — in a lithium-ion battery pack. It’s then deployed to power the crankshaft as well as the turbo compressor to give the concept more oomph."

Good read, I like this paragraph too:

"Based on the Q60 Red Sport 400, the concept uses a biturbo 3.0-liter V6 engine developing 400 horsepower (298 kilowatts) like it does in the regular model. In this application, the combustion engine works together with an electric motor to boost output to somewhere in the region of 500 hp (373 kW)."


I doubt Ford would go that far in R&D, which could easily drive up the cost. My best bet is (copy/paste) the hybrid tech from the Fusion and call it a day.

 

[Jdenkevitz]

Good read, I like this paragraph too:

"Based on the Q60 Red Sport 400, the concept uses a biturbo 3.0-liter V6 engine developing 400 horsepower (298 kilowatts) like it does in the regular model. In this application, the combustion engine works together with an electric motor to boost output to somewhere in the region of 500 hp (373 kW)."


I doubt Ford would go that far in R&D, which could easily drive up the cost. My best bet is (copy/paste) the hybrid tech from the Fusion and call it a day.

This tech is not that cutting edge. Reclaiming power from braking has been in use for quite some time now.

I would be shocked if Ford wasn't pushing the bounds of this tech. 20 years from now I imagine 90% of vehicles sold will be EV.

Its a win win putting money into this. It helps build a foundation for their EV vehicles, and the hybrids help hit CAFE targets.

 

[dron_jones]

Good read, I like this paragraph too:

"Based on the Q60 Red Sport 400, the concept uses a biturbo 3.0-liter V6 engine developing 400 horsepower (298 kilowatts) like it does in the regular model. In this application, the combustion engine works together with an electric motor to boost output to somewhere in the region of 500 hp (373 kW)."


I doubt Ford would go that far in R&D, which could easily drive up the cost. My best bet is (copy/paste) the hybrid tech from the Fusion and call it a day.

It is 100% not the recycled system from the fusion. It will be a standalone purpose built system for the mustang

 

[Topnotch]

Quote from source...
"engine coupled with electric will produce blistering torque!"

 

[65Terdlingua]

This tech is not that cutting edge. Reclaiming power from braking has been in use for quite some time now.

I would be shocked if Ford wasn't pushing the bounds of this tech. 20 years from now I imagine 90% of vehicles sold will be EV.

Its a win win putting money into this. It helps build a foundation for their EV vehicles, and the hybrids help hit CAFE targets.

The cutting edge part is the fact they get power from exhaust and coupe a motor directly to the crank a la F! tech. Thats the portion I think he was referring to.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Quote from source...
"engine coupled with electric will produce blistering torque!"

So how compatible with a manual transmission (or even a DSG) is that going to be?


Norm

 

[EJS2016]

Manual transmissions are dying a slow death.
Hybrid technology and the desire for increased efficiency would only seem to hasten their demise.

 

[Ebm]

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Manual transmissions are dying a slow death.
Hybrid technology and the desire for increased efficiency would only seem to hasten their demise.

Electric production vehicles that are out now don't have gears to shift. All of them are a single speed (single speed step down transmission in the case of a Tesla Model). So a manual transmission really isn't feasible. Even if it was feasible, an electric vehicle's torque curve would break most traditional transmissions. Hold on to your manual now, I'll give the manual about 10 more years before it's only in a select few supercars.

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