More GT500 from 2019 Shelby Bash in Vegas

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  1. svttim

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    That’s the sound of everyone in a 300 yard radius getting massive erections... :devil: :crackup:
     
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    I like when she asks "how much does it weigh?" It was the same old let me talk about every other feature that has already been gone over 100 times before just so I can dodge the question.
     
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    What I found interesting was when he said the DCT weighs about the same (As the GT350 trans). That, combined with the supercharger, were the heaviest items. So, I'm hoping the weight comes in a bit lower than expected
     
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    ^Dont forget the unnecessary huge rotors and calipers adding weight also because "GT500."
     
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    Also, all of the separate radiators (7 if i recall somewhere),coolant lines and pumps, all that extra fluid has weight to it btw.
    a single gallon of coolant weighs over 9 pounds...
     
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    The GT350 sounds ok, but this? Can't wait to hear it in person. Love the hood venting.
     
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    I like both the new GT350 and GT500 spoilers. Though the GT500 spoiler looks a lot like APR drag wing and Steeda's wing.
     
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    If they didn't need to be that way, then why would they add weight unnecessarily? (it was rhetorical)
     
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    Wow, hard to imagine that a DCT and a manual would weigh the same amount.
     
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    Well everyone likes to quote Jim Owens in his videos lately......

    Me, I don't care. I do trust the 500 will be very special. I'm a very patient man. (To a point).
     
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    Honestly, probably just to stand apart and claim largest brakes on production mustang for the top dog. Peronally i would really love the option to run 19" wheels and tires for performance and aesthetics.
     
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    I highly doubt the 500s design goals primarily revolved around aesthetics. An automotive engineer designing a performance vehicle like this would kill to save a pound here and there. The 20" wheels were designed to be the same weight as the 19" counterpart on the 350. Unfortunately, the engineers decided on bigger brakes (and I'm sure for good reason).

    You can bet your bottom dollar that every aspect of this S550 chassis was gone over and weight was saved wherever economically feasible. Let's face it, the 500, as expensive as it may wind up being, will still have to be competitive with other vehicles in its class.

    So I seriously doubt they added extra weight to the car by putting larger, more massive rotors that would add weight and be a detriment to performance for the sake of some kind of bragging right.
     
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    I think your giving them to much credit. They say its designed for ultimate performance on track but the design of the car using 20" wheels seems like its leaning to more of an all around road car like GT500s have always typically been. More to suit the masses which is fine, i still love it but just wish the option for 19s was there at least because i could care less about the track package wheels and would definitely use aftermarket wheels and tires which are typically lighter and better avalible sizes etc. Really hope they do put utmost focus on shaving that weight though so it can compete with an auto ZLE mainly, guess we shall find out. I could see the brakes being needed if it could reach 200mph hehehe :)
     
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    My position all along has been we will see.....
     
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    That Orange colour is growing on me. Still think I will get the Red one but brighter colours are calling my name.
     
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    When Ford set out to design the car they had certain performance standards that they deemed they needed to meet. I know this and what those standards are because my best friend was the performance standards engineer for the project. His job was to keep the car on track (no pun intended) through the development process.

    For "ultimate on track performance" they set some VERY high standards. Higher than anything I have seen out of any manufacturer except Porsche. I wish I could disclose them to you. You would be shocked how lofty they are. To meet those standards the car has about a million pounds of coolers, pumps, lines, fluid, etc. To stop all that weight while maintaining goals they had to use brakes that big. Using brakes that big made 20's necessary. Those 20's aren't on there for aesthetics. They are there because they are what is needed to solve an engineering problem.

    I assure you, even the non track pack cars are very, very, very focused on road course lap times and longevity. This is the "raciest" Mustang ever designed by a huge margin. Yes, I'm including the GT350 in the comparison.

    Big brakes are needed for repeated deceleration (road course). You don't actually need that much brake to stop from 200mph once.
     
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    100% correct.

    Again, 100% correct. I know ounces were stressed over while MAINTAINING A BUDGET. The key here is budget. They could drop 500# off of the car and not need to stress their engineering power one iota. It simply costs money. Money that they rightly thought would drive the price of the car up to a level that it wasn't a viable product.

    Do people think that is costs more to make a ZR1 than a GT500 HP to HP and LB to LB? No, it doesn't. The ZR1's what is it $120K+ price is what happens when you want to shave #400lb. If the ZR1 was 4000# it could be a $80K car.

    You are absolutely 100% correct.
     
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    Same for me. The last one was Deep Impact Blue. Definitely ready for a lighter/brighter color. The question is...is the orange car we've been seeing Orange Fury or is it the new Twister Orange? I'm reading conflicting information on that. Either way I like it, but if it's not Twister Orange, I really want to see that color!
     
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