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My entire point was that the GT PP2 did everything better from a handling perspective but lacked the go power which was mainly due to gearing. So with a few more ponies and the revised ratios of the Tremec the Mach 1 should be siginifcantly "quicker" too which is the only reason the GT350 and 1LE bested the PP2 around a track.
One thing that I have noticed at Area 27 going up against the GT350, and it was suggested by a GT350 driver that I passed, that the torque range is low on the PP2 compared to the GT350, and it allows quicker exit speed out of the 2nd and third gear corners. It does have a lot of pull down low.





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One thing that I have noticed at Area 27 going up against the GT350, and it was suggested by a GT350 driver that I passed, that the torque range is low on the PP2 compared to the GT350, and it allows quicker exit speed out of the 2nd and third gear corners. It does have a lot of pull down low.
The gearing of the MT-82D4 is still to numerically low. The Tremec isn’t a lot better but anything will help.
 

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My entire point was that the GT PP2 did everything better from a handling perspective but lacked the go power which was mainly due to gearing. So with a few more ponies and the revised ratios of the Tremec the Mach 1 should be siginifcantly "quicker" too which is the only reason the GT350 and 1LE bested the PP2 around a track.
Ok Cody5.0, I somewhat follow what your saying. Not seeing the everything better handling wise your talking about thou. In all of the articles I’ve read, the GT350 posted faster lap times and was easier to manage on track. That’s all that really matters. Anything else is just speculation and/or opinion.
 
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The PP2 puts down more grip, but the GT350 definitely has better handling. The suspension tuning is just better

That’s why I’m really thinking the Mach 1 will be able to top that. Should have PP2 levels of grip but GT350 level suspension compliance as long as Ford got the tuning right (which, considering they said Ford Performance worked on the car, I’d assume that’s the role they played since the engine is untouched)
 

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I’d agree that the PP2 and 1LE are on par though. That was my point in bringing this up, because someone had said that the PP2 cant even match the 1LE, which isn’t the case at all... because sometimes, it can even beat it
Don't sell the 1LE short. I autocross against a couple of them and they're bloody fast. That doesn't mean I would buy one, for any number of reasons, but they can flat hustle around a track.
 
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Don't sell the 1LE short. I autocross against a couple of them and they're bloody fast. That doesn't mean I would buy one, for any number of reasons, but they can flat hustle around a track.
To shit on a 1LE would be to shit on a PP2 or GT350. They’re certainly all excellent cars and all within spitting distance of each other in terms of performance. The 1LE is excellent in autocross because it’s so light
 

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Hey Jake_zx2, agree 100%. The only thing that’ll stop the Mach 1 from being top dog is Ford. They have a bad habit of over promising and under delivering. While I have high hopes for the Mach 1 , it’s my perception that gets in the way of me fully accepting it. Had this car been called a Boss302, I would have dropped everything, probably sold everything to acquire one. Mach 1 was mostly drag/street, Boss302 track and Shelby mostly track/collector In my mind. This was the language Ford used to communicate to us or maybe just me. I’m a Mustang guy and only a Mustang will due. But my Mustang has to be impressive.
 

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Hey Jake_zx2, agree 100%. The only thing that’ll stop the Mach 1 from being top dog is Ford. They have a bad habit of over promising and under delivering. While I have high hopes for the Mach 1 , it’s my perception that gets in the way of me fully accepting it. Had this car been called a Boss302, I would have dropped everything, probably sold everything to acquire one. Mach 1 was mostly drag/street, Boss302 track and Shelby mostly track/collector In my mind. This was the language Ford used to communicate to us or maybe just me. I’m a Mustang guy and only a Mustang will due. But my Mustang has to be impressive.
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I too would much rather have seen a return of the Boss.
 
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Personally, I don’t care too much about the name. In the end, they’re all Mustangs. This Mustang is more upgraded relative to the GT than just about any Mach 1 in history. I’m not mad about it :shrug:
 

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