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Are you telling me that basically a month after production started there was only ONE new rare Mustang at an event, but a bunch of older cars? What can this mean!
I get what you’re saying but track folks can be a bit different, people will get a new car and take it out to the first events they can. There was no s650s at barber this weekend. Lots of s550 a few s197, a couple Shelby’s including a former FPRS Track Attack GT500 and 4 Mach1s including me. Just surprised as new “track”
models are usually out right after they become widely available.
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I get Ivan's A10 Mach 1 MP4s tires for a spin and put my 2017 GT on the OEM PZero tires on my car. Both cars were doing 1:10 though I did have 0.3-0.4 sec advantage in my car but that I think is mostly confidence and knowing the car so well. Overall I still consider it a success and a lot more mods to come like Power Pack 3.
Next time I'll let you drive my manual and we'll see how it compares manual to manual. I bet your hyped up set up would be way better. How did you drive Ivan's auto - track mode or sport + mode? He does his laps in sport, I did mine in track mode and it was hell of a fun...
 

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Can you post a link to a professional review comparing times run the same day between the Mach 1 and GT350R? I'm assuming you have that based on your emphatic statement.
I just LOVE how GT350 owners get triggered by anything comparable to their venerable GT350s outperforms their Mustangs. 😂

The GT350 is not a Ferrari. The GT350 is not a Corvette. The GT350 is not a McClaren. It is a Mustang with an imbalanced Voodoo engine that slowly rattles itself to death.

And "same same day"? 😂



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I just LOVE how GT350 owners get triggered by anything comparable to their venerable GT350s outperforms their Mustangs. 😂

The GT350 is not a Ferrari. The GT350 is not a Corvette. The GT350 is not a McClaren. It is a Mustang with an imbalanced Voodoo engine that slowly rattles itself to death.

And "same same day"? 😂
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The GT350 is faster there is no doubt about it if not for anything else but 750 RPM on top of the 7500 of the Mach 1 same day same pro driver same tires the GT350 will always be faster. The VIR was repaved between 2019 and 2022 which is the reason why lap times of the GT350 are slower.
 

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The VIR was repaved between 2019 and 2022 which is the reason why lap times of the GT350 are slower.
Sure. But the lap times are close enough they are a wash. You need at least 1.2 seconds difference to get all high and mighty about superiority one over another.
 

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Sure. But the lap times are close enough they are a wash. You need at least 1.2 seconds difference to get all high and mighty about superiority one over another.
They are no close enough. We need someone to take both cars to whatever track and test them back to back. Though considering DH is marginally faster than a Mach 1 we can conclude that all factory track Mustangs are on a similar playing field out of the factory.
 

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It's interesting to see the difference in opinions between different forums on the Dark Horse. Here it gets zero respect, but on other forums people are singing it's praises after the results it posted at the lightning lap. Is it my cup of tea? Absolutely not, but it still put up a damn impressive lap time.
 

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It's interesting to see the difference in opinions between different forums on the Dark Horse. Here it gets zero respect, but on other forums people are singing it's praises after the results it posted at the lightning lap. Is it my cup of tea? Absolutely not, but it still put up a damn impressive lap time.
The Lightning lap is interesting because of the M2 time 4 sec slower than DH. Also DH was posting faster laps than M2 on Throttle House lap testing. Terry Fair from Vorshlag recently bought a DH and the times he is posting with that car are insane. Overall the DH is no joke. The problem for me is the price is insane.
 

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I just LOVE how GT350 owners get triggered by anything comparable to their venerable GT350s outperforms their Mustangs. 😂

The GT350 is not a Ferrari. The GT350 is not a Corvette. The GT350 is not a McClaren. It is a Mustang with an imbalanced Voodoo engine that slowly rattles itself to death.

And "same same day"? 😂



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Wow. First the DH, and now we're trashing GT350s. Biased much?
 

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Wow. First the DH, and now we're trashing GT350s. Biased much?
Yeah, can we please stick to trashing Camaros and Mopars like a proper Mustang community. 🤭
 

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It's interesting to see the difference in opinions between different forums on the Dark Horse. Here it gets zero respect, but on other forums people are singing it's praises after the results it posted at the lightning lap. Is it my cup of tea? Absolutely not, but it still put up a damn impressive lap time.
Exactly. Looks and numb steering aside, the Dark Horse is as every bit as track capable as the M1. Some people here just like to hate.
 

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Exactly. Looks and numb steering aside, the Dark Horse is as every bit as track capable as the M1. Some people here just like to hate.

Exactly. Looks and numb steering aside, the Dark Horse is as every bit as track capable as the M1. Some people here just like to hate.

Same as the GT350 guys hate the Mach1. Funny the DH is no joke, but the Mach1 is according to some.

For me the M1 is the most underrated Mustang.
 

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Exactly. Looks and numb steering aside, the Dark Horse is as every bit as track capable as the M1. Some people here just like to hate.
Under my opinion, it's a shame launch a new generation car, and make the same time that a generation with 9 years old technology, this is not happens with Porsche or other brands.
 
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Under my opinion, it's a shame launch a new generation car, and make the same time that a generation with 9 years old technology, this is not happens with Porsche or other brands.
Well lets be honest. The S650 is basically just version 2.0 of the S550 anyway. Not a ton changed (or needed to). Plus it's hard to improve on something that had so much right to begin with. One of these days they'll figure out how to trim some weight off the Mustang though.
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