Leaked: 2019 GT500 5.2L Supercharged Engine Wiring CAD Diagram from Ford!

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    So I saw this awhile ago when I first looked at 2018 wiring diagram info but just assumed that it was a different intake manifold for the 5.2 GT350 as these appear when looking at 5.2 diagrams for the 2018. Now that I look at it closer though I can see the supercharger underneath!

    As stated, these images appear in the official 2018 wiring diagrams available from Ford.

    *Also as a note... Do not look to much into the wiring information seen in the image as it appears that the wiring file is from a GT350 as you can see it go through the supercharger intercooler in a few places and the throttle position sensor connector is just floating in space.

    5.2 GT500-1.png

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    Wow. Looks like you can even see the Cobra embossed on the SC case in the second image.

    Nice.
     
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    Wow,.....nice catch Zack.
    I think you're onto something there! :thumbsup:
     
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    Damn, that's a find right there!
     
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    Also seems very DI, to me!

    Also a little cool that his post is #2018... I'm a nerd.
     
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    Not sure the DI system found on the 18 5.0 will fit under there... I also do not see any previsions for the High Pressure Fuel Pump on the passenger side cylinder head so I would not hold my breath for that.
     
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    #7 zackmd1, Dec 23, 2017
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    Also as a note... Do not look to much into the wiring information seen in the image as it appears that the wiring file is from a GT350 as you can see it go through the supercharger intercooler in a few places and the throttle position sensor connector is just floating in space.

    Somebody at Ford that creates these diagrams F****d up.
     
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    Interesting either way. If it's not DI - that just means it will be an easier upgrade for GT350 owners ;)
     
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    Ford is typically tight lipped about everything. I wonder if this is an intentional leak to draw interest?
     
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    The leaks keep on coming!
     
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    Service CD for 2018 Mustang isn't even available yet from Helm.

    Helm.jpg

    You work at a dealership Zack?
     
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    There were serious doubts there would be room for PDI under a traditional roots type charger. Ford waited for an "upside down" design (which was just announced) because nothing would work...



    It STILL didn't work...




    Maybe 750hp but I have serious reservations as to IF it can break 700.
     
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    I was told the mule engines were port fuel injected only, this fits in perfect with that. No provision on the valve cover at all.

    Look closely at what what would be the flywheel were this a 5.2 GT350 engine...it looks to be a flex plate which would imply an automatic. It'd be interesting to look at the flex plate for a 5.0 with the new 10-speed as word I've been given was the GT500 would be a DCT 7-speed...
     
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    I do not..! All Ford service info is available online through motorcraftservice.com

    You can selecting a 72hr pass for $21, one month, and one year subscription. I use it regularly for different projects.
     
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    It certainly does look like a flexplate and not a flywheel. The 10 speed flexplate uses 4 mounting locations for the torque converter. This one has 3. I am diving back into the diagrams to see if I can bring up a picture of the Ford GT flexplate. Stay tuned...
     
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    Well that was no help... GT uses a completely different design so no parallels exist. The image below though is the flexplate and flywheel for the 2018. Neither match what is seen in the 5.2 diagram. Flexplate.PNG
     
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    Too funny. I want to watch the football game but have been scouring as well. I looked for something at Ford Parts going through almost every category and nothing to match what you found in the service data. So I started comparing flywheels as well.

    We start with this from the image you supplied Zack...

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    It does look similar to the "primary" flywheel on the GT350. Note the three "notches near the outer OD but it is missing any type of "secondary" flywheel. But if it simply wasn't shown in cad this still doesn't work. Note the 8 large diameter holes near the pilot on the above flywheel. You can almost see the bolt heads that would attach it to the crank.

    Here's a GT350 primary/secondary dual mass flywheel. Same 3 notches. Similar 8 holes but that is on the secondary flywheel which the "GT500" flywheel doesn't even have. Possible that the Tremec DCT 7-speed will be used with a sprung primary flywheel?

    [​IMG]



    Putting the GT350 next to this one looks something like this...

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    Really hard to read into vague CAD images that are often inaccurately depicted but it is fun to compare. The 2018 Mustang GT 10-speed auto looks nothing like either...

    [​IMG]


    I think we are very close to knowing what transmission(s) will be in this thing.
     
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    Haha well looking at the images, it certainly does seem like the GT500 flywheel is derived from the GT350 flywheel design. If this GT500 is coming with a DCT then it will be an all new package not seen in other Fords... The GT DCT is a transaxle which is why there were no parallels I could find.
     
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    I went through Motorcraft for the three day to mine for more data. I forgot what a PIA it is as they are using some dated software, just as it was when I bought the Helm service CD for my 2016 GT350. Anyway, this is an epic screw up. The GT500 front and rear CAD images are used over and over again when referencing numerous connector locations with what should be the 5.2L GT350 engine. If you go back and look, the GT350 engine is correctly depicted in prior years just as the 5.0L engine is, etc.
     
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