Kid street racing runs over women and child

[Schwerin]

Anyways.....spoiled 18 year olds that get waaaaaaaaay too much car than their juvenile brains can handle, are a real problem.

Mommy said she feels it was all her fault. Wonder if she's the one that bought him the car.

Do we know what trim level it was? People have been making the 'to much car' argument for decades, even back when a v8 was barely 200hp and slower than a modern Civic. Now used family cars with over 300hp (330+hp in some cases) are not that pricy and a simple Civic can be over 200. But people think "oh Family car, Civics those are safe" ONLY because they are not a loud engine or a v8. I mean I could do 100+ in a 1997 Escort with 140hp. That wouldn't make an Escort "to much car" just makes me "to much stupid".

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[NoVaGT]

Do we know what trim level it was? People have been making the 'to much car' argument for decades, even back when a v8 was barely 200hp and slower than a modern Civic. Now used family cars with over 300hp (330+hp in some cases) are not that pricy and a simple Civic can be over 200. But people think "oh Family car, Civics those are safe" ONLY because they are not a loud engine or a v8. I mean I could do 100+ in a 1997 Escort with 140hp. That wouldn't make an Escort "to much car" just makes me "to much stupid".

Very, very true.......bad driving just is. Kid could have been going that fast in a minivan.

But most 18 year olds that WANT to street race, aren't going to be looking to do it in a mini-van. They're gonna want something like a Mustang, Camaro, etc. Mini vans don't poke and prod you to go fast, and aren't purchased for/by 18 year olds to go street racing with.

 

[WD Pro]

Mommy said she feels it was all her fault. Wonder if she's the one that bought him the car.

The Telegraph article quotes it was a graduation gift (two days earlier) from mum and dad.

It must have been a GT - the article also quotes the car had recoded 162 mph on I75.

WD

 

[BigRed550]

Dang 24 years is more than we give people for shooting and killing someone in my city. But I guess that’s also why we are one of the top in the nation for homicides...

 

[Schwerin]

Very, very true.......bad driving just is. Kid could have been going that fast in a minivan.

But most 18 year olds that WANT to street race, aren't going to be looking to do it in a mini-van. They're gonna want something like a Mustang, Camaro, etc. Mini vans don't poke and prod you to go fast, and aren't purchased for/by 18 year olds to go street racing with.

Part of why I'd like to see more kids get things like a Civic, or Sentra, or a Focus. They aren't fast but fast enough to get into trouble, and it also is cheaper to work/learn on, and being an i4 and kid with kid money, bolt-ons is likely all they will add before looking into brakes and suspension. Or they are more inclined to think "well no point in go fast bit, may as well have corner hugging bits"

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Giving an 18 year old a brand new Mustang was the first step in the wrong direction.

Why do adults forget what it was like when they were teenagers?

Anyways.....spoiled 18 year olds that get waaaaaaaaay too much car than their juvenile brains can handle, are a real problem.

Yep.

Don't get me wrong, I get there are responsible 18 year olds, who work, plan for school/vocation, help out home, do great in school ...

... but hand an 18 kid, especially a boy, a 435+ HP vehicle like a Mustang? JFC, that just seems incredibly irresponsible as a parent.

 

[Schwerin]

The Telegraph article quotes it was a graduation gift (two days earlier) from mum and dad.

It must have been a GT - the article also quotes the car had recoded 162 mph on I75.

WD

For that to be the case it just means it tuned or the limiters removed. a GT tops out at 155, Bullitt 162-163 and a EB 121mph EB Hi-Po 145. All will go faster but are electronically limited.

 

[WD Pro]

For that to be the case it just means it tuned or the limiters removed. a GT tops out at 155, Bullitt 162-163 and a EB 121mph EB Hi-Po 145. All will go faster but are electronically limited.

Ah OK, I just had it in my head that's what our Euro GT's top out at and assumed it to be the same

WD

 

[mindo389]

It really doesn't matter what someone was driving, heck I raced with a 73 Pinto... it's just that we need to use better sense when doing something as street racing: learn or teach when to shut it down before something bad happens. Street racing won't stop... we'd race go karts or riding lawnmowers if we didn't have cars.

 

[FreePenguin]

So senseless and tragic.

I hope that members of the performance and enthusiast community can learn from this (and hopefully) modify their behaviour.

Especially all the sideshow shit.

Itl be turned into a political weapon against cars that go fast. Any ammo they can get they are going to roll with. Look at gun stuff... using things from past that didn’t even directly affect now are being used for sympathy to ban guns. Sad for people as a whole. Sucks a few people die from people shooting eachother, but that’s not my problem or yours to lose buying gun and ownership rights

 

[2morrow]

Itl be turned into a political weapon against cars that go fast. Any ammo they can get they are going to roll with. Look at gun stuff... using things from past that didn’t even directly affect now are being used for sympathy to ban guns. Sad for people as a whole. Sucks a few people die from people shooting eachother, but that’s not my problem or yours to lose buying gun and ownership rights

Your absolutely right but I intentionally left the politics out of it so the thread wouldn't get shut down.

 

[Gregs24]

Itl be turned into a political weapon against cars that go fast.

And to be fair - why not. It is indefensible. It is important that responsible road users, which I hope most on here are, are seen to be critical of such behaviour.

Racing takes place on race tracks (or closed roads). Anywhere else is inappropriate. Race tracks have barriers, safety systems, marshals and medical facilities. They don't generally have children, pedestrians, trees, cows or any other such random items that can and will pop up in front of you on the road. If you race on the road you deserve everything that comes to you.

 

[526 HRSE]

It's the car's fault and not the kid's. Stricter background checks should be had for all new car owners. All current car owners should be forced to turn in their old cars. Gas prices should be raised to discourage people from driving these deadly machines.

 

[526 HRSE]

A drag strip is not a track. It's a strip.

This is a track;

This is a strip;

Anyways.....spoiled 18 year olds that get waaaaaaaaay too much car than their juvenile brains can handle, are a real problem.

Mommy said she feels it was all her fault. Wonder if she's the one that bought him the car.

If this logic is true, what about the countless tragic freeway accidents caused by old people or women putting on their makeup? Should women get their own track too?

 

[Gregs24]

Part of why I'd like to see more kids get things like a Civic, or Sentra, or a Focus. They aren't fast but fast enough to get into trouble, and it also is cheaper to work/learn on, and being an i4 and kid with kid money, bolt-ons is likely all they will add before looking into brakes and suspension. Or they are more inclined to think "well no point in go fast bit, may as well have corner hugging bits"

I've never quite got that approach. Even small weedy cars are plenty fast enough to kill people when they hit them. The bit that needs educating is the drivers brain - if you can find it and it isn't being turned to mush by testosterone (or to be inclusive, oestrogen)

Not sure about in the US but our kids all get some pretty harrowing road accident stuff shown to them at school before they get the chance to learn to drive. It doesn't stop all the morons from killing people, but it certainly had an effect on my two boys.

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