It’s coming... 3 States have now banned future combustion engine car sales

[shogun32]

but that the folks who made decisions did not want to pay the extra two grand such would cost.

• gear oil in the crank case that's too thick at cold temps
• blades that have no de-ice

iced up blades vibrate and there are protection circuits that halt the spinning if the vibration hits a threashold.

Germany's green energy program (solar, really?) at least had the sense to keep their fossil fuel plants in 'ready' state so they could be lit off again fairly quickly. But all that maint and "silent running" meant their electricity prices are 2x as expensive as their neighbors. TX was STUPID enough to believe their own hype. What good is a 'green energy' source if you have to spend most of the running cost of a backstop source to be available for when the sun doesn't shine or wind blows or you get some cold air?

Are Texans willing to pay 2x as much in perpetuity for their electricity so they don't experience this again while they preen about "oh we use green energy"? How about the billions of damage from frozen pipes, deaths to both man and animal? Ready for the insurance rates to blow up? USAA is a short opportunity here IMO.

The even worse fk-up was the gas industry replacing their pipeline pumps with electrical because it was 'cleaner' instead of continuing to use the gas-fired pumps they've used for decades. What had been a very resilient infrastructure (short of a bomb) was now fragile, had multiple failure modes and crippled because oil men listened to eco-weenie retards and wanted to be seen as 'woke'. Pipelines do not freeze the pumps do. So now you have nat-gas powerplants who can't get their feedstocks because the pumps are frozen or have no electricity.

I thought I read that they lost a nuclear plant because of grid instability - those can't be re-fired for 3-5 days. But I can't find the citation.

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[sk47]

Fossil fuels are so clean these days they are cleaner than the so called green energy sources.

Unless you buy into the fallacy of Co2 being a pollutant. No Co2, no plants. No plants no life.

Hello; I use the analogy of water. Water and CO2 are both needed for life, but too much water can drown you. Same for too much CO2 in a sense. A submarine is a good example. There are CO2 scrubbers in submarines to keep the CO2 levels down.

The notion of CO2 as a pollutant is a bit of a stretch. It is a greenhouse gas, so that seems to be the way they tie it in. This is a language ploy in a sense. We all think of things called a pollutant as bad. So if CO2 can be stuffed into the language as a pollutant then it makes pushing an agenda an easier sell. I guess you could say a drowning victim died from water pollution in the same way.

Don't get me wrong. Greenhouse gases are a real thing. They have kept the earth inhabitable for millions of years. They are needed to help hold solar energy in the atmosphere. Solar energy as light passes thru the air easy because it is composed of short wavelengths. When sun light hits surfaces the energy is absorbed, especially dark surfaces. Those surfaces then release that energy at much longer wavelengths as what we call heat ( infared radiation).
Turns out the greenhouse gasses do not allow the longer heat wavelengths to pass thru as easy as light does so decent amount of solar energy stays in the atmosphere. Without the green house gasses the surface of earth would be very much colder.

What the global warming is based on is there is too much of the greenhouse gasses are in the atmosphere now. This may be correct. However there are lots of natural greenhouse gas sources which have nothing to do with human activities. Questions include just how much human activities add to the mix and just as important how much difference it might make if we stopped all greenhouse emissions today?

 

[sk47]

Ok, so you can make them work in the cold. What about the birds they kill? What about the "oil" needed to make them? What about the land fill space they need for the worn out blades? What about how friggen ugly they are?

Hello; all very good points. Well the ugly point is subject to personal likes.

 

[K4fxd]

I think it was one of Al Gores books. He laid out a plan to have everyone live within 25 miles of each coast and the interior of the Country being a national forest.

That is the long term goal. So the people with the agenda don't care and they get people to buy into it by using kids cartoons and the public school systems.

Captain Planet??

 

[sk47]

The even worse fk-up was the gas industry replacing their pipeline pumps with electrical because it was 'cleaner' instead of continuing to use the gas-fired pumps they've used for decades. What had been a very resilient infrastructure (short of a bomb) was now fragile, had multiple failure modes and crippled because oil men listened to eco-weenie retards and wanted to be seen as 'woke'. Pipelines do not freeze the pumps do. So now you have nat-gas powerplants who can't get their feedstocks because the pumps are frozen or have no electricity.

Hello; This answered a question for me. I knew natural gas power plants had operated for decades without freezing up and did not understand why they failed in TX. I get it now.
Your "woke" comment is right on point. The idealism of the concepts becomes more important that real life.
Very good post all together. Thanks

 

[shogun32]

The notion of CO2 as a pollutant is a bit of a stretch. It is a greenhouse gas

CO2 is such a pathetically weak "greenhouse" gas ANY and ALL arguments based on that premise are flat-out false. So much for "follow the science" eh?

All this weather/climate dogma/calamity is 100% aimed at impeding economic activity (nee capitalism). The Watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) have admitted to it over and over. This isn't about saving the planet, its about killing the USA and economies in general. It would be far cheaper and honest for them to just come out and say, "we want to kill 2 out of every 3 people on this planet and control every aspect of economic activity the way we see fit."

 

[K4fxd]

Water and CO2 are both needed for life, but too much water can drown you. Same for too much CO2 in a sense.

Current Co2 levels are almost at starvation levels for plants. Look it up. Oh wait the agenda people erased that information. Just like they changed all the data on warming.
Water vapor is the gas that has the most effect on holding warmth. This can be proved on any overcast winter night.

Read State of Fear All the reference material cited has been erased.

 

[sk47]

Current Co2 levels are almost at starvation levels for plants. Look it up. Oh wait the agenda people erased that information. Just like they changed all the data on warming.
Water vapor is the gas that has the most effect on holding warmth. This can be proved on any overcast winter night.

Read State of Fear All the reference material cited has been erased.

Hello; You are correct. On a cloudy overcast winter night the temps will be warmer. On clear nights it will be colder. There are more greenhouse gases than CO2 for sure.

 

[Strokerswild]

https://www.theonion.com/ford-ceo-launches-electric-vehicle-push-by-having-buddy-1846242951

 

[sk47]

Porsche Claims Its Synthetic Fuel Could Make Combustion Engines As Clean As EVs (msn.com)

Hello; Maybe a pipe dream???

 

[shogun32]

Porsche Claims Its Synthetic Fuel Could Make Combustion Engines As Clean As EVs (msn.com)

Hello; Maybe a pipe dream???

that's why "ban ICE' as a solution is stupid. It assumes that human ingenuity can't come up with an alternative.

Synth-Fuel was made in WW2 by the Germans from Coal since their access to Balkan oil was cut off. This is probably just a re-spin of the same idea. And Coal is a fantastic energy resource. Burning it is easy but dirty and frankly naive. Using the Thorium contained therein (generates far more BTU than burning the Carbon) for our nuclear power is a good idea and has been demonstrated. Running the Carbon chains thru a catalyst and creating "pure" hydrocarbons - what more could you want?

You can furthermore use a 'coal-fired' Thorium reactor to power the synth-fuel plant sitting next to it and more left over to re-charge those pussy, grossly inefficient EV batteries. Match made in heaven.

 

[sk47]

that's why "ban ICE' as a solution is stupid. It assumes that human ingenuity can't come up with an alternative.

Synth-Fuel was made in WW2 by the Germans from Coal since their access to Balkan oil was cut off. This is probably just a re-spin of the same idea. And Coal is a fantastic energy resource. Burning it is easy but dirty and frankly naive. Using the Thorium contained therein (generates far more BTU than burning the Carbon) for our nuclear power is a good idea and has been demonstrated. Running the Carbon chains thru a catalyst and creating "pure" hydrocarbons - what more could you want?

You can furthermore use a 'coal-fired' Thorium reactor to power the synth-fuel plant sitting next to it and more left over to re-charge those pussy, grossly inefficient EV batteries. Match made in heaven.

Hello; it is my understanding coal gasification has been going on near Kingsport TN. At least it was a few years ago back when fuel was expensive. They may have cut back on the research when oil prices went down the previous four years. They may get it up an running again now that fuel costs are sure to rise. A 20+ cents a gallon jump here in just the last couple of days. I know it will be blamed on the cold weather at the refineries for a time and such may be the root cause. But if history is a clue it will take a long time for the prices to go down. Always has in the past.

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