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I do not know why everyone is attacking Dr. Immanuel. As noted, she is a legitimate Dr. and her findings should not be discounted. Indeed, they should be shared with the public. After all, she is legitimate. As also noted, she has offered help in areas that others totally ignore. For that she should be praised and supported. Who else is acknowledging these serious issues:
  • that gynaecological issues are the result of having sex with witches and demons
  • that DNA from space aliens is being used in medicine
  • that the American Government is run by "half-human" people with a "reptilian spirit"
  • that scientists are working on a vaccine to stop people from becoming religious
What's the problem?
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If the results for this drug are "unclear" and the deciding factor in using it to treat patients is an out of control hatred for Trump, then it is not actually medical research. Nothing advocated for by the left has any basis in medical research. Gov. Cuomo sending 6,500 elderly people to nursing homes to die in order to free up bed space for other people wasn't medically necessary, but it did save billions and cleaned out unwanted old people from New York's nursing homes.

This drug has been around for something like 70 years, it is off patent and cheaper than anything reinvented by pharma companies, it is easy to see why they hate it.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.08.20054551v2

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/article-abstract/634192

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hydrox...-coronavirus-patients-study-finds-11593729664

https://www.sciencenews.org/article...olitics-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-research

https://www.tropicalmedicine.ox.ac....quine-and-hydroxychloroquine-prevent-covid-19

It has low risks of side effects if taken in correct doses and in many cases it appears to help, or it did until Trump mentioned it, then it stopped working according to Democrats.

I'd be interested in seeing how many people currently taking this medication have had Corona and what were the outcomes of their cases in comparison to people who did not take this medication and had the Corona virus.

A typical medical study takes months or years, unless Trump says something positive about the drug, then it suddenly is fatal and does not work and the study is over in days or weeks. Wouldn't it be nice to know you didn't get thousands of people killed by refusing them a potentially life saving drug. Or are democrats okay with murdering people to win an election?
I don’t know why you struggle with this so much.
The point being made is that it’s UNCLEAR.
In simple terms, the president needs to shut the fuck up about it and let the doctors and scientists work it out. Once they have a result (either way), start talking about it.
Would you like him to start naming other potential drugs that also haven’t been proven?
The point is that he continually harps on about this because it appears he desperately wants to be right, rather than waiting for the results to come in, before declaring himself the “winner”.
Maybe that’s not his reasoning, but I can’t see any other reason why he would continue with his agenda rather than simply waiting.
The scientists and doctors don’t care what he thinks, nor do they need his advice.
 

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I do not know why everyone is attacking Dr. Immanuel. As noted, she is a legitimate Dr. and her findings should not be discounted. Indeed, they should be shared with the public. After all, she is legitimate. As also noted, she has offered help in areas that others totally ignore. For that she should be praised and supported. Who else is acknowledging these serious issues:


What's the problem?
Bravo sir, bravo :clap::clap:
 

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I've been hearing it since Ford. Republican Presidents are all idiots. They are stupid, run by others and have no grasp on reality.

Every Dem is the smartest person to ever hold office.

This is what our news media tells us.

I wonder what would come out of Joe's mouth if Schumer and Pelosi hadn't put a muzzle on him.
That's some bs worthy of being called out on.
Good job comrade
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According to the media,

Ford was unbalanced. Reagan as a war mongering dunce, Bush 1 was an idiot, Bush 2 was an incompetent fool who lied to us. Trump is an incompetent fool who lies to us.

See the pattern

Carter, smart man,

Clinton Rhodes scholar, lied to a grand jury, hey it's only sex. He is a Democrat so laws don't apply

Obama, smartest man in any room. Illegally sent pallets full of cash to Iran. He is a Democrat so laws don't apply
 

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Actually what he said is true. Afganistan, along with trying to keep up an arms race with us, bankrupted the USSR.
 

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According to the media,

Ford was unbalanced. Reagan as a war mongering dunce, Bush 1 was an idiot, Bush 2 was an incompetent fool who lied to us. Trump is an incompetent fool who lies to us.

See the pattern

Carter, smart man,

Clinton Rhodes scholar, lied to a grand jury, hey it's only sex. He is a Democrat so laws don't apply

Obama, smartest man in any room. Illegally sent pallets full of cash to Iran. He is a Democrat so laws don't apply
Dude
Wishing for simple answers on complicated subjects takes more than a google search
Actually what he said is true. Afganistan, along with trying to keep up an arms race with us, bankrupted the USSR.
Yeah so give Putin a break why don't ya'
 
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If the results for this drug are "unclear" and the deciding factor in using it to treat patients is an out of control hatred for Trump, then it is not actually medical research.


The results are clear - no proven evidence HCQ has a benefit in the treatment of COVID. This is not political.

Plenty of drugs - including the incredibly cheap Dexamethasone are proven to work.

Why does Trump not hail Dexamethasone ?
 

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I realize this is from a biased source...but come on.

Can you imagine if Trump was escorted around like this?

At some point people have to admit this guy is like Weekend at Bernie. :crazy:


 

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Actually what he said is true. Afganistan, along with trying to keep up an arms race with us, bankrupted the USSR.
I think you share Trump's misunderstanding of what Russia is and what the Soviet Union was. In your case it doesn't matter, in Trump's case it is frightening.
 
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I realize this is from a biased source...but come on.

Can you imagine if Trump was escorted around like this?

At some point people have to admit this guy is like Weekend at Bernie. :crazy:


Surely there must be somebody better as an option for president than the two you are having foisted upon you. Trump or Biden - there is a pond at the White House, there must be something swimming in there that is better ? Whilst you are there see if you can fish out something for us as well !
 

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Surely there must be somebody better as an option for president than the two you are having foisted upon you. Trump or Biden - there is a pond at the White House, there must be something swimming in there that is better ? Whilst you are there see if you can fish out something for us as well !
I'm sure the same thing is said in your part of the world.

Politicians are typically comprised of the least worst alternative...not the best. The best stay out of politics and make their fortunes in the private sector.
 

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Actually what he said is true. Afganistan, along with trying to keep up an arms race with us, bankrupted the USSR.
Not even close. I could go into great detail but I'll give you the short answer.

The biggest factors were nationalism, the coup d'etat; and the decline in oil prices.

"Armageddon Averted" by Stephen Kotkin is a great write up on it.
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