Is there a "best" Year GT350 to Buy?

[ParkCity06]

This was posted on another thread regarding the updates to the 2019/2020 motors. Sorry if a repeat--I just skimmed the thread:


Confirmed Changes

Overall

• The Gen 2 5.2 can withstand 12 psi of sustained boost (Confirmed by article)
• Romeo Niche Line engines are now only built by a single builder (Evidenced by 2019 Build Plates)

Recast Block

• Longer Gen 1 Coyote spec head bolts (Confirmed by article)
• Additional cylinder bore material surrounding the water jackets (Confirmed by article)
• Added cast in brace on intake side of cylinder bore (Confirmed by article)
• "Bay to Bay" Breathing ports reorientated to better equalize block gasses and minimize windage (Confirmed by article)

Recast Cylinder Head

• Additional material around water jackets for better sealing (Confirmed by article)
• Stronger valve seat material to handle increased heat (Confirmed by article)
• 4 Layer MLS head gasket (Confirmed by article)

Valvetrain

• GT350R Timing Chains (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Lash adjusters (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Cam covers (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R VCT mechanisms (Confirmed by article and data tag)

Rotating Assembly

• Improved I-beam connecting rods (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)
• Forged crank sprocket (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)

Unconfirmed Changes

• Copper-lead bearings
• Resized piston-cooling jets
• Improved oil pump with larger stronger gerotor gear - FP Hotline said "carryover" (mrbillwot)
• Upgraded exhaust valve seals
• Higher exhaust valve spring rate
• Improved Oil Pan, Oil Pickup, and Windage tray - mrbillwot confirming

Sources

• Predator Development Article - http://www.mustangandfords.com/features/built-ford-fast/
• User mrbillwot has been gathering info from the Ford Performance Hotline

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[FlipC]

I would Say a 1965 They are the Best! Not as fast, but they sound like they are! And they put a bigger Smile on your face!

 

[JAJ]

This was posted on another thread regarding the updates to the 2019/2020 motors. Sorry if a repeat--I just skimmed the thread:


Confirmed Changes

Overall

• The Gen 2 5.2 can withstand 12 psi of sustained boost (Confirmed by article)
• Romeo Niche Line engines are now only built by a single builder (Evidenced by 2019 Build Plates)

Recast Block

• Longer Gen 1 Coyote spec head bolts (Confirmed by article)
• Additional cylinder bore material surrounding the water jackets (Confirmed by article)
• Added cast in brace on intake side of cylinder bore (Confirmed by article)
• "Bay to Bay" Breathing ports reorientated to better equalize block gasses and minimize windage (Confirmed by article)

Recast Cylinder Head

• Additional material around water jackets for better sealing (Confirmed by article)
• Stronger valve seat material to handle increased heat (Confirmed by article)
• 4 Layer MLS head gasket (Confirmed by article)

Valvetrain

• GT350R Timing Chains (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Lash adjusters (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Cam covers (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R VCT mechanisms (Confirmed by article and data tag)

Rotating Assembly

• Improved I-beam connecting rods (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)
• Forged crank sprocket (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)

Unconfirmed Changes

• Copper-lead bearings
• Resized piston-cooling jets
• Improved oil pump with larger stronger gerotor gear - FP Hotline said "carryover" (mrbillwot)
• Upgraded exhaust valve seals
• Higher exhaust valve spring rate
• Improved Oil Pan, Oil Pickup, and Windage tray - mrbillwot confirming

Sources

• Predator Development Article - http://www.mustangandfords.com/features/built-ford-fast/
• User mrbillwot has been gathering info from the Ford Performance Hotline

So, I'll say it again. These changes are not "updates to the 2019/2020 motors". They're running changes that have accumulated since 2016. Some have been on the engine since 2017, some are newer. Some were done to improve reliability, many were done to reduce cost. The notion that "it's newer so it must be better" is an easy trap to fall into. ALL of the engines meet the same specs for performance and reliability.

 

[Johnnydarkgt350]

I would Say a 1965 They are the Best! Not as fast, but they sound like they are! And they put a bigger Smile on your face!

Very true, but your 65 had the noisy locker, no rear seat , no upper quarter windows and no rear brake scoops. some on here might complain of tramlining ? So my 66 is the best year ( do rental cars count?).

 

[FlipC]

Yea Johnny, they are noisy, stink (Good) like exhaust, rattle and shake. But I sure like driving Em!
I have an old Rental 66 also! (Plus a few more!) But I Love Fords for Sure.

 

[stanglife]

Yea Johnny, they are noisy, stink (Good) like exhaust, rattle and shake. But I sure like driving Em!
I have an old Rental 66 also! (Plus a few more!) But I Love Fords for Sure.

Wow to that collection.

 

[Johnnydarkgt350]

Yea Johnny, they are noisy, stink (Good) like exhaust, rattle and shake. But I sure like driving Em!
I have an old Rental 66 also! (Plus a few more!) But I Love Fords for Sure.

I guess we can start a different thread as flip won

 

[ChipG]

I guess we can start a different thread as flip won

Yeah, hard to compete with "just buy them all"

 

[FlipC]

LoL I have had some of these cars for 35+ years. Paid $6,000 for my 67! Yep got to have them All!
I wouldn't have bought the 2020 except the Ser. # is 481 and the 65 is #184 So Hey I had too! and @ list price No dealer Up charge.

 

[ParkCity06]

Yea Johnny, they are noisy, stink (Good) like exhaust, rattle and shake. But I sure like driving Em!
I have an old Rental 66 also! (Plus a few more!) But I Love Fords for Sure.

damn--that is a beautiful sight. the hertz and the 69 convertible are beautiful.

 

[svttim]

So, I'll say it again. These changes are not "updates to the 2019/2020 motors". They're running changes that have accumulated since 2016. Some have been on the engine since 2017, some are newer. Some were done to improve reliability, many were done to reduce cost. The notion that "it's newer so it must be better" is an easy trap to fall into. ALL of the engines meet the same specs for performance and reliability.

Id like to know which are running changes. We know the headbolts were 19/20 only. Same with the R components on base engines (started sometime in 18) The 19/20 did receive major changes that were not accumulations over time, mostly thanks to the GT500.

 

[footnfan]

There is a tick in there somewhere. Amongst the 495 RWHP!
https://vimeo.com/manage/115540483/general Headphones suggested!






Yep, I left he trunk open to turn off the power, 30 seconds later.

 

[Yerfdog13]

This was posted on another thread regarding the updates to the 2019/2020 motors. Sorry if a repeat--I just skimmed the thread:


Confirmed Changes

Overall

• The Gen 2 5.2 can withstand 12 psi of sustained boost (Confirmed by article)
• Romeo Niche Line engines are now only built by a single builder (Evidenced by 2019 Build Plates)

Recast Block

• Longer Gen 1 Coyote spec head bolts (Confirmed by article)
• Additional cylinder bore material surrounding the water jackets (Confirmed by article)
• Added cast in brace on intake side of cylinder bore (Confirmed by article)
• "Bay to Bay" Breathing ports reorientated to better equalize block gasses and minimize windage (Confirmed by article)

Recast Cylinder Head

• Additional material around water jackets for better sealing (Confirmed by article)
• Stronger valve seat material to handle increased heat (Confirmed by article)
• 4 Layer MLS head gasket (Confirmed by article)

Valvetrain

• GT350R Timing Chains (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Lash adjusters (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R Cam covers (Confirmed by article and data tag)
• GT350R VCT mechanisms (Confirmed by article and data tag)

Rotating Assembly

• Improved I-beam connecting rods (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)
• Forged crank sprocket (mrbillwot called FP Hotline)

Unconfirmed Changes

• Copper-lead bearings
• Resized piston-cooling jets
• Improved oil pump with larger stronger gerotor gear - FP Hotline said "carryover" (mrbillwot)
• Upgraded exhaust valve seals
• Higher exhaust valve spring rate
• Improved Oil Pan, Oil Pickup, and Windage tray - mrbillwot confirming

Sources

• Predator Development Article - http://www.mustangandfords.com/features/built-ford-fast/
• User mrbillwot has been gathering info from the Ford Performance Hotline

Anyone know if all 2019 and up had 1 single engine builder? My car had 2, wondering if this was changed later in 2019 as my car was fairly early 2019. Not that it matters at all, just curious.

 

[lenFeb]

Anyone know if all 2019 and up had 1 single engine builder? My car had 2, wondering if this was changed later in 2019 as my car was fairly early 2019. Not that it matters at all, just curious.

I have two builders. My is K0110 early build. My understanding for the one builder theory is that Ford split people between Voodoo and Predator engines line.

 

[sox3]

2 builders for mine also, K0215, Feb 19 build

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