Is a tracked vehicle a dealbreaker?

[WItoTX]

These are just attachable mods. Nothing requiring opening up the engine or transmission. So I wouldnt see why.

You do bring up a good point. The added value of the warranty means nothing if they void it because of track use. Track use I didnt even do, mind you. This is why I like the this forum. I get caught up in the buying process I lose sight of the small things. Well this isnt so small. But today I realized I didnt apply for a temporary tag.

I guess its a moot point since I want to track the car anyways. Im not getting this car to sit it in traffic or in my driveway.

As God intended!

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[jmn444]

Tracking shouldn't void the warranty, but actual competition could. best bet is to simply not talk about tracking it and make sure that things that could be interpreted as competition related aren't in the car when you take it in for service/repairs.

 

[luc]

Tracking shouldn't void the warranty, but actual competition could. best bet is to simply not talk about tracking it and make sure that things that could be interpreted as competition related aren't in the car when you take it in for service/repairs.

It’s really depend on the dealer, i have had clutch and engine replaced under warranty and i had my car towed with racing seat. Harness, tires, etc…
But, yeah, if not sure better not to mention it

 

[jmn444]

It’s really depend on the dealer, i have had clutch and engine replaced under warranty and i had my car towed with racing seat. Harness, tires, etc…
But, yeah, if not sure better not to mention it

agreed, my dealer knows, but we have a long relationship.

 

[Egparson202]

When my VCT failed (in spectacular fashion I might add), I was at the track. No effort was made to conceal the seats, harnesses, roll bar or track tires. The engine is bone stock.

I explained that the failure occurred during an HPDE event and the dealer fixed it all under warranty. No muss, no fuss.

 

[BryanCO]

I understand that. Im honestly keeping for a while so not too concerned with resale. Unless you get lucky with desirable one offs or keep a car in a garage on a tender with 10 miles on it you never get your money back.

How often I track depends. I was going to get an R but then I decided to save money and use that for track insurance, consumables, training, etc.

I appreciate your level headedness with me and value the input you gave.

Could hear the guy shuffling through papers as I talked on the phone with him. He even repeated himself later and what he said matched up as I was typing all of the details.

The guys kids are getting of driving age and going to college so hes selling for funds and to avoid huge car insurance hikes. Makes sense. Its a believeable story.

PPI is getting done at a local ford dealership. I did an oasis already. Title is clean. Im doing an in person inspection.

I know track mods dont add value and im not paying for them. For what I am paying its a good deal factoring just the rims and warranty which i value and would do. All the track items are a bonus.

Maybe i track it a few times a year. Maybe more. My buddy has a GT500 and think we could have some fun together. I dont plan on beating on it. My goal is to have more fun than I can on the road in a safe and legal manner. Not in it to beat anyone or be the fastest. I have never tracked a car and i might hate it.

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[BryanCO]

So someone mentioned social media. Good tip. So I took a look at the track group he mentioned and followed a facebook page of the group.

Saw his car posted twice on the page. Once in October '22 and once again December '22.

The October '22 he still had a passenger in the car. Presumably an instructor? Is having a passenger typical for a beginner/novice? The December one was a drivers side picture so tough to tell it looks like someone was in the passenger as the seatbelt looks pulled out and can sort of make out a helmet.

This pretty much matches with the story he has been telling of 3 times tracked it AMP novice instructed and 1.5 times cut loose. The only inconsistency is he said the .5 time was because a GT3 hit a wall. Then it was his tire shredding. Which he replaced on 1/9/23.

Damn I love the internet.

These are just attachable mods. Nothing requiring opening up the engine or transmission. So I wouldnt see why.

You do bring up a good point. The added value of the warranty means nothing if they void it because of track use. Track use I didnt even do, mind you. This is why I like the this forum. I get caught up in the buying process I lose sight of the small things. Well this isnt so small. But today I realized I didnt apply for a temporary tag.

I guess its a moot point since I want to track the car anyways. Im not getting this car to sit it in traffic or in my driveway.

A GT3 hitting a wall. That never happens….

Temp tag - just have the bill of sale and related paperwork. You can also ask the owner if you can keep the plate for the drive back and then send it to him. Either way, no big deal.

Don‘t forget to add it to your insurance policy.

And have fun!

 

[EFI]

To me, buying a tracked car is like buying used underwear with the knowledge that the previous owner had crapped their pants while wearing them. I'm sure they have been washed but it's still a bit weird.

Tracked or not, at least they have the maitenance and history available and looks good on paper.

With another car, you might not have the same luxury. Also, who's to say that another car was never tracked unless the owner fesses up about it and just calls it a "light weekend cruise, never abused/tracked"?

I'd rather a meticulously maintained light use track car from an enthusiast than an unknown history from some random finance bro who bought this car on a whim and knows nothing about cars besides it being "fast".

 

[2016S550]

Haha! Whats with the CV axle leakage? This car had that as well.

I have my airplane ticket already. Financing in order. PPI lined up. And shipper lined up. All my ducks are in a row. My boss actually bought my airplane tickets lol. I said naw I got it and he told me to shut the fuck up.

Its magnetic metallic

Any Pics? sounds like your well on your way. Congrats!

 

[Venom52]

It would be such a shame to buy one and just street drive it all the time or worst yet parking lot pimp at C&C. When i sold my 350 it had 5000 miles on it and i tracked it a lot and kept all the records etc. Whomever owns it now has well maintained mostly tracked car. Currently my 500 only comes out to be tracked as well.

I say go for it and enjoy it at least track it once but be careful it's highly additive.

 

[Rb1987]

When my VCT failed (in spectacular fashion I might add), I was at the track. No effort was made to conceal the seats, harnesses, roll bar or track tires. The engine is bone stock.

I explained that the failure occurred during an HPDE event and the dealer fixed it all under warranty. No muss, no fuss.

Thats reassuring. However it was a valid point Wltotx brought up and one that I didnt even think about as these are track cars.

 

[Rb1987]

A GT3 hitting a wall. That never happens….

Temp tag - just have the bill of sale and related paperwork. You can also ask the owner if you can keep the plate for the drive back and then send it to him. Either way, no big deal.

Don‘t forget to add it to your insurance policy.

And have fun!

I postponed pickup until Friday next week. As he didnt want to do it this Saturday as hes fairly paranoid about certified check forgery. He wants to hold onto the title until checks clear.

From everything I read as long as I have a bill of sale signed and notorized by us both. The keys. Pictures of the checks. There seems to be little risk. Guy sounds like a straight shooter, just has trust issues. Which is understandable given the state of the world. I have my concerns as well.

 

[Rb1987]

It would be such a shame to buy one and just street drive it all the time or worst yet parking lot pimp at C&C. When i sold my 350 it had 5000 miles on it and i tracked it a lot and kept all the records etc. Whomever owns it now has well maintained mostly tracked car. Currently my 500 only comes out to be tracked as well.

I say go for it and enjoy it at least track it once but be careful it's highly additive.

Yeah he said he drove it like it was meant to be driven for a good 30% of the 9k miles he put on the car. He started getting the addiction again (he used to track subbies 11 years ago) but then had kids and shifted priorities. He said he wants something cheaper to track. To me this is a sign that he never beat on it.

He pulled up his account for the track event register thing and had 7 track events where he was cut off on his own. Said this was about (16) 15 min sessions where he was able to drive it like he wanted (not to be confused with abused). 3 of these 7 track outings were beginner-novice and lead follow.

Has dates and everything for it. Very transparent. Solid guy. I mean how hard can you drive on PS4s? Even RT660s for that matter. From what I read these are street/track tires.

I dont know the previous owner of the first 8k miles, but was told it was another adult and they were even more thorough than this guy.

Have no reason to not believe what he is saying as the truth as he literally pulled up this information without prior askings so no time to fabricate and load of bull.

 

[Rb1987]

Tracked or not, at least they have the maitenance and history available and looks good on paper.

With another car, you might not have the same luxury. Also, who's to say that another car was never tracked unless the owner fesses up about it and just calls it a "light weekend cruise, never abused/tracked"?

I'd rather a meticulously maintained light use track car from an enthusiast than an unknown history from some random finance bro who bought this car on a whim and knows nothing about cars besides it being "fast".

I agree wholeheartedly. While im not the most knowledgeable on cars. Im sticking around here hoping to learn a few things as there are a lot of good people here (some bad ones as well). But it is what it is.

 

[BryanCO]

I postponed pickup until Friday next week. As he didnt want to do it this Saturday as hes fairly paranoid about certified check forgery. He wants to hold onto the title until checks clear.

From everything I read as long as I have a bill of sale signed and notorized by us both. The keys. Pictures of the checks. There seems to be little risk. Guy sounds like a straight shooter, just has trust issues. Which is understandable given the state of the world. I have my concerns as well.

When is the PPI? I would not provide payment until the PPI is complete.

Generally, the funds are coming from your banj/cu (assuming you are still financing). Generally, the buyer and your bank/cu will be talking as your bank/cu will want the seller to send the title direct to them via FedEx or similar.

The buyer can take the check to their bank whom then can immediately verify authenticity/funds. A certified check is different from a personal check. Funds are drawn from your account (or against a loan) as the time the check is issued. You can ask your bank/cu, but the funds should be available immediately. Also, you essentially cannot stop payment once it’s given to the seller so be cautious. Talk with your bank/cu to make sure you understand the transaction process.

As I previously mentioned, buy the seller. Note that the seller may may not do this very often and not know the ‘rules’. And both of you are from different states, etc.

In the end, be informed and protect yourself and the transaction will go fine.

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