I don't want my car doors to auto-lock at >15mph

[GT Pony]

Does this work to Mustang?

Someone should try it and see. But if it can be done by this long and drawn out procedure, why didn't Ford just put it in the Information Display menus like it says in the owner's manual? Guess it's possible Ford didn't want it to be easy too change in a menu, so decided to remove the option in the menus. :shrug:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=512301&postcount=1

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[ScottsGT]

My dad is a retired CHP officer. He told me years ago that he never released a seat belt on a dead body. All the deaths were unbelted when he found them.

That's only because it is the coroners/EMT's job to do this. Not a cops.

 

[Evolvd]

That's only because it is the coroners/EMT's job to do this. Not a cops.

That's just an asinine statement, a cop is going to check to see if they are alive if he's the first responder...

But it's whatevs...if you hate it, you hate it. I prefer to have my doors locked as it's one more barrier between me and the outside world. If a crash is so bad that I can't open my door, guess what, the locks won't make A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE!

 

[stoli]

If a crash is so bad that I can't open my door, guess what, the locks won't make A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE!

Come on, you know the First Responders are going to leave if your door is locked. It will be obvious you didn't want help and they have no training to get into a car with locked doors anyway....

 

[Norm Peterson]

And it is pretty quiet, so that is why many have not noticed yet.

I don't know if "pretty quiet" is a good thing or not. The auto-lock in my daughter's car (not a Mustang, but that's a minor detail) is flat-out loud and quite disconcerting when it kicks in. I hate it. But making it quieter would only result in me hating it differently, as something trying to be snuck past me while I wasn't paying attention.

If overall safety was all that much better with the doors locked, I'd have heard about it at HPDE track day drivers' meetings by now. I haven't, and the risk level there is considerably higher and the consequences potentially as serious as they get.

Really, it's not about crash safety or ludicrous comparisons to seatbelt (non)usage and not locking the doors to one's house at night. It's about turning the management of yet another little slice of my life over to others. No thanks.

Maybe if my life had followed a different path I might feel differently. But that's all water under the bridge, so to speak, and I will probably always object to other people forcing me to accept their views without question or making me live my life in exactly the same way they want to live theirs.

As madweazl noted above "if I want the doors locked, I will lock them".


Norm

 

[Branden]

I don't know if "pretty quiet" is a good thing or not. The auto-lock in my daughter's car (not a Mustang, but that's a minor detail) is flat-out loud and quite disconcerting when it kicks in. I hate it. But making it quieter would only result in me hating it differently, as something trying to be snuck past me while I wasn't paying attention.

If overall safety was all that much better with the doors locked, I'd have heard about it at HPDE track day drivers' meetings by now. I haven't, and the risk level there is considerably higher and the consequences potentially as serious as they get.

Really, it's not about crash safety or ludicrous comparisons to seatbelt (non)usage and not locking the doors to one's house at night. It's about turning the management of yet another little slice of my life over to others. No thanks.

Maybe if my life had followed a different path I might feel differently. But that's all water under the bridge, so to speak, and I will probably always object to other people forcing me to accept their views without question or making me live my life in exactly the same way they want to live theirs.

As madweazl noted above "if I want the doors locked, I will lock them".


Norm

It's like vaccinations or computer updates or any other advancement to modern society. Some people don't want things forced on them regardless if it's in their best interest.

As long as a bad decision is only affecting the person making it, I'm more than happy to let them do 70 MPH on a highway without a seatbelt and the doors unlocked. But for the love of god, please patch your computer so that it doesn't send me penis enlargement emails.

 

[Norm Peterson]

It's like vaccinations or computer updates or any other advancement to modern society. Some people don't want things forced on them regardless if it's in their best interest.

As long as a bad decision is only affecting the person making it, I'm more than happy to let them do 70 MPH on a highway without a seatbelt and the doors unlocked.

It's like I said, if my life had followed a different path I might well feel differently about this particular topic. But you couldn't possibly use my life as evidence to show that not locking your car's doors while driving was a bad decision. Not from the 16 years before I got my license or from the 52 years since.

That said, I'm not immune to suggestions . . . my seatbelt usage started precisely from a suggestion, way back before seatbelts were mandatory fitment to new cars. I can still replay most of the mental video.

But for the love of god, please patch your computer so that it doesn't send me penis enlargement emails.

Not computer savvy enough to know what to fix here, let alone how.


Norm

 

[GT Pony]

I think they should bring back metal dashboards and suicide doors!

 

[Evolvd]

Come on, you know the First Responders are going to leave if your door is locked. It will be obvious you didn't want help and they have no training to get into a car with locked doors anyway....

With that statement you obviously have little idea what first responders are actually capable of and trained for.

 

[P4RKER]

With that statement you obviously have little idea what first responders are actually capable of and trained for.

I needed a good chuckle this morning. Thanks for missing the huge amounts of sarcasm in stoli's post so I could start this Friday off right!

 

[GTP]

Originally Posted by stoli View Post
Programming auto-lock: https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/vehic...uto-locks.html

Does this work to Mustang?

I tried this procedure yesterday and it did not work.

As for the >12mph autolock feature being pretty quiet when it activates, you can look at the red LED at the top of the door. I think it goes on at that moment.

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FWIW
Again, I believe that a first responder is most likely of the Good Samaritan type. Who is not likely to have the auto rescue tool, or have any other special rescue training. And of course I will already be wearing my seatbelt. I don't believe that the latch lock is stronger than the latch itself to prevent the door from opening when it is being crushed in by a large force.

I first became aware of the notion of driving with doors unlocked from Volvo back in the 80's. I wonder if feeling "safe and locked in" is an American view. I just think this autolock feature on so many cars the last several years is backwards. IMO it should be locked at <12mph due to car-jacking, and then unlocked at >12mph in case of a crash.

But this whole reverse-concept would be a hard sell to the general public.

 

[Evolvd]

I needed a good chuckle this morning. Thanks for missing the huge amounts of sarcasm in stoli's post so I could start this Friday off right!

That's what I get for responding when I'm dead tired lol....totally missed the sarcasm.

Carry on Stoli, carry on ;)

 

[steven]

seems like some people just have to be in control of every little thing...the doors locking provide more benefit vs not locking....and if it really bothers you to push the unlock button for your passenger, well America is just getting to damn spoiled...

 

[Norm Peterson]

I wonder if feeling "safe and locked in" is an American view.

I think it's part of a wider "generational" outlook where the concept of "acceptable risk" has been fading over the last 50 years or so to the point where it hardly exists any more. Driven by a safety industry (not just automotive) that has a vested interest in sustaining itself.

New drivers today are two generations removed from things like the all-metal dashboards mentioned earlier, and just can't understand how people could accept too much more risk than they are themselves comfortable with.

That it may be more of an American view could be tied to the quality(?) of driver education here, and where dealing with the consequences of that inexperience and inadequate training is now thought best left to others at the vehicle design level.


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

seems like some people just have to be in control of every little thing...the doors locking provide more benefit vs not locking

When you've always been in control of these little things before, it very much feels like you're being treated like a little kid when that control is taken away. Whether there is any net value to giving up control is irrelevant.

....and if it really bothers you to push the unlock button for your passenger, well America is just getting to damn spoiled...

Too damn spoiled is expecting to have these things even done for you in the first place . . . instead of leaving that initial choice up to you.


Norm

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