I did it, 2020 F150 intake manifold on a GT

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The answer is simple. PD blower.
It might be but that is a serious investment especially when you get into OPG change yet. I'd rather not add a bunch of nose weight either. I really don't think I want power that is sketchy control for backroad fun. I really think I would be plenty happy with 30 more tq. For now anyway. I'd say a pro charger might be in the distant future though. But this intake is such a cheap experiment and I miss experimenting since my racing days.





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Little perspective here. There are some minivans build today that'll carry 6 lil brats that will beat a 1970 340 cuda that makes more torque. How you ask ? :
 

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It might be but that is a serious investment especially when you get into OPG change yet. I'd rather not add a bunch of nose weight either. I really don't think I want power that is sketchy control for backroad fun. I really think I would be plenty happy with 30 more tq. For now anyway. I'd say a pro charger might be in the distant future though. But this intake is such a cheap experiment and I miss experimenting since my racing days.
It's only a 5.0 N/A. It can't make power at low rpm because it lacks displacement compared to the bigger pushrod engines. You can fatten the curve a bit low down with an IM tuned for lower rpm filling but as others have said you'll pay the price. A mustang's smaller displacement DOHC 4V independent VVT powerplant is MADE to rev and make high end power - you knew that when you bought it. If you want torque at low rpm you have to cram air down its throat. The beauty of Coyotes is they can handle boost stock, and because they breathe well they can make massive power at high rpm. But yeah, handling will be affected if you add weight on the nose like that.

Did you buy the 82 new? 157hp sounds so minimal these days (though only weighed 3k lbs). Did it feel really fast back in the day? After all of those smogged 70s slugs I'll bet it did...
 

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Actually I did realized what I was getting when I bought the gt. I drove newish ones in 16 and was not impressed. I believed there was potential but in stock form I was not overly impressed. I was not willing to throw the warranty out the window on a 34000 car right away. My plan had been then wait till prices drop, daughter out of college and one out of warranty and have fun with it. But I was shocked how good the eco was. I got a great deal on a used one and really enjoyed it for 4.5 years. And that coming from a tuned Audi Ttrs. That is the car made me fall in love with torque. 60 to 100 with one gear drop rollon just made you say Holy F and anyone else in the car. I got very concerned with future cost with that, so I moved on after 2 years.

The 82 gt was not bad. But I bought a wrecked 87 gt for 1500 with 900 miles and transfered everything into the 82. I replaced the fuel injection with 600 double pump and great Wieland manifold and it really worked great. Best run of 13.4 anyway. I spent so much time tuning that thing and believe it or not, compared to my poor man's dyno (sign to sign up my mountain) that was quicker in the 3rd gear 2500 pulls I used to do then this GT. And so easy to light up the tires in 2nd gear. I used to love to short shift it.
 
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Did you buy the 82 new? 157hp sounds so minimal these days (though only weighed 3k lbs). Did it feel really fast back in the day?
accounting for weight that '82 combo is roughly equivalent to 300HP on today's almost 4000lb car.
 

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Actually I did realized what I was getting when I bought the gt. I drove newish ones in 16 and was not impressed. I believed there was potential but in stock form I was not overly impressed. I was not willing to throw the warranty out the window on a 34000 car right away. My plan had been then wait till prices drop, daughter out of college and one out of warranty and have fun with it. But I was shocked how good the eco was. I got a great deal on a used one and really enjoyed it for 4.5 years. And that coming from a tuned Audi Ttrs. That is the car made me fall in love with torque. 60 to 100 with one gear drop rollon just made you say Holy F and anyone else in the car. I got very concerned with future cost with that, so I moved on after 2 years.

The 82 gt was not bad. But I bought a wrecked 87 gt for 1500 with 900 miles and transfered everything into the 82. I replaced the fuel injection with 600 double pump and great Wieland manifold and it really worked great. Best run of 13.4 anyway. I spent so much time tuning that thing and believe it or not, compared to my poor man's dyno (sign to sign up my mountain) that was quicker in the 3rd gear 2500 pulls I used to do then this GT. And so easy to light up the tires in 2nd gear. I used to love to short shift it.
If your impressed by an ecoboost but not a GT a boosted 5.0 would melt your brain LOL.

That and bolt on gen3 coyote are in the 10s all motor pretty easily.
 

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I was impressed with the eco for what it was for 22000 for a 1 year old car with cpo warranty. I went into it with such low expectations. The 5000 rpm drop off, not so much. But yes, I do love a supercharger. I got a ride in an 09 gt500 and REALLY loved that. The whine was so addictive. Not sure I need that much just power just yet. This gt I plan to keep awhile. I got the color options and condition I always wanted so I'm going have this for awhile. Literally the mustang I wanted since selling that 82 gt. Honestly the s550 was the first time of all the mustangs that didn't feel too much like that old gt. In a good way. Finally left the euro and Japan cars.
 

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For the truck manny nuthuggers haha here you go. Picked up 3 MPH ( no loss in ET ) with putting a GT manifold on a 2020 F-150.
3 mph = 30 hp

Not quite an apples to apples if we’re comparing the dyno below to a 2018+ Mustang GT as the 2018 F150 will have different “truck tuned” cams but it does give us an idea of what kind of numbers a 2018+ GT would put down with a Gen 3 F150 manifold.

In the F150 world, swapping to the 2018 GT manifold is not uncommon at all. Every before and after dyno graph I’ve seen of an owner who’s gone from the 2018 F150 manifold to the 2018 GT manifold looks like the graph below.

The Gen 3 F150 manifold will make more power upto 5,500rpms especially with low-end torque but what it gives up from 5,500-7,500rpms would be too much for me to overlook. Even with the much less severe drop off of power at 6000+ rpms like with the Gen 2 F150 manifold. I believe most 2018+ F150 guys pick up .3-.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile just by swapping to the Gen 3 GT manifold and getting a 93 tune.

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Not quite an apples to apples if we’re comparing the dyno below to a 2018+ Mustang GT as the 2018 F150 will have different “truck tuned” cams but it does give us an idea of what kind of numbers a 2018+ GT would put down with a Gen 3 F150 manifold.

In the F150 world, swapping to the 2018 GT manifold is not uncommon at all. Every before and after dyno graph I’ve seen of an owner who’s gone from the 2018 F150 manifold to the 2018 GT manifold looks like the graph below.

The Gen 3 F150 manifold will make more power upto 5,500rpms especially with low-end torque but what it gives up from 5,500-7,500rpms would be too much for me to overlook. Even with the much less severe drop off of power at 6000+ rpms like with the Gen 2 F150 manifold. I believe most 2018+ F150 guys pick up .3-.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile just by swapping to the Gen 3 GT manifold and getting a 93 tune.

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Definitely agree with what you are saying but op test is against the stock 15-17 gt manifold just to show that you gain nothing up top but you don't lose either while gaining some low and midrange power. This is for gen 2 mustangs only. The 18 gt manifold is best bang for your buck
 

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Personally I think a 18 gt manifold with a torque converter and lower rear gear would be one fun street. But for someone on a budget and what a cheap upgrade with some performance gain the Gen 3 f150 intake maybe the way to go
 

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Definitely agree with what you are saying but op test is against the stock 15-17 gt manifold just to show that you gain nothing up top but you don't lose either while gaining some low and midrange power. This is for gen 2 mustangs only. The 18 gt manifold is best bang for your buck
I agree with you. The Gen 3 F150 manifold is almost like an improved Gen 2 GT manifold. Also, we don’t know for certain how a 2018+ GT would perform with a Gen 3 F150 manifold. We can only speculate until someone actually does it and provides the data. I would be very interested.
 

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For what the 18+ gt offers I think the Gen 3 f150 intake would be a definite down grade but it would be interesting just to see
 

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For what the 18+ gt offers I think the Gen 3 f150 intake would be a definite down grade but it would be interesting just to see
all the tq and then fall on its face when the coyote wants to rev past 5k LOL!
 

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2021 Ferrari 812 Superfast would destroy any mustang ever made with it's 'peak torque' at 7000 rpm.

  • VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door hatchback.
  • ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 48-valve V-12, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection.
  • DISPLACEMENT: 396 cu in, 6496 cc.
  • POWER: 789 hp @ 8500 rpm.
  • TORQUE: 530 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm.

You think it has trouble passing any vehicle on the road due to its lack of low end torque ?
 

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