GT350 will live past 2019 with GT500 engine block!

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    #1 Boss Bandit, Jan 16, 2019
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    Hey guys, I was reading one of the multiple GT500 articles out there that rehash what little we actually know about that car, when a specific bit of info from Mustang Chief Engineer Carl Widdman caught my eye:

    "Widmann did, however, tell us that the GT500’s block will actually make it into the GT350 once it’s in production."

    Since we're months away from the GT500 starting production, this implies that the GT350 will also continue into 2020, and likely beyond. I'll be keenly interested in how the new block benefits the GT350, and if they continue to tweak it even with the GT500 on the scene. Could we even see more power out of the box with this development?

    With this automatic only mandate on the GT500 so far, and because I think the 350 is the cleaner, nicer looking car, my preference remains with the 350 even if it gets eclipsed by it's big brother in the speed and features department.

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    https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sh...t500-engineering-details/?src=socialflowFBRAT
     
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    With the Bullitt dynoing close to 510-20 at the crank, I suspect the next 5.0 will soon get refreshed with similar power in 2021. That would close the lead by a lot of what the GT350 has over a GT with PP2, other than gearing and cooling. I would not be surprised if in 2021 or 2022 the GT350 isn't updated to a 575-600HP range.
     
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    Wait, whaaaaat?
     
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    Schwing.......
     
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    Well since Ford is not selling cars only trucks and SUVs they will do whatever it takes to keep up sales.

    Not that any car is a investment but with the even longer production run and upgrades coming us current owners are going to take a pretty big hit on value.
     
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    If you want a beefier 5.2 liter block, you can buy one from Ford Performance now: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6010-M52A

    They describe the longer head bolts and reinforced cylinders, just like the GT500 block.
     
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    I might have missed it but I didn’t see it in that article.

    Edit: I see it now. That’s... really unexpected and neat.

    DCT, CPC, 575hp 3700lb 350?!

    Hmmm might be the quicker around a track than the 500.
     
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    That makes sense because the predator is based on the gen 2 coyote, not the current gen 3 form what I understand.
     
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    Is this the 2019 Voodoo block?
     
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    Interesting. I would assume if this is true that it wouldn't go into the 350 until the 2020 model year. However, based on all of the changes to the block listed in the article, it would seem that the 350 wouldn't benefit in any way from them since they are all improvements with the sole purpose of handling the boost and additional heat from the 500's blower. So it seems to me that these changes in a 350 would be pretty much useless. No?
     
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    Not that the regular GT350s were the rarest cars after the years long run, but yah this news completely does away with that.
     
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    Maybe it is in what they are not saying.

    I'm kind of confused by the article. Will the GT350s still be FPC or will they go to a non supercharged version of the new GT350 CPC engine?

    If so is it really still a GT350 at the FPC was what gave the car its unique character?
     
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    As much as I love my GT350's looks and the FPC performance and sound, I still can't shake the worry about engine failures especially out of warranty. The only thing I might trade it for would be a new GT350 with the same looks and a 5.2L CPC engine making a little more NA horsepower and I assume more reliable.
     
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    My read, and I could be wrong is the GT500 and 350 will share a block until end of production this year
     
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    Yeah that's how I interpreted it too. I'm not sure if they have started rolling the 2019's off the line yet, but I feel like they're going to stick these new blocks in for the 2019 YM and hopefully call it quits at the end of this YM cycle. Part of the allure to these cars, (outside of the fact they're unique and incredible cars), was that they were limited production. The GT350 has seen steadily increasing yearly production numbers since 2016 and they're becoming more and more common. I honestly figured when they announced the face lift for 2018 that would be the end of the GT350. Here we are staring a 2019 and possibly beyond in the chops.
     
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    Am I the only one one to see this, 510-520 at the crank??!!!??? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    This is exactly as I understand it and makes complete sense in terms of production. Why on earth would you not use the same block when they are virtually identical sans additional oil passages?

    Lets not make this more than it is, a quoted statement made by a publications saying so-and-so told us, when so-and-so isn't even quoted.
     
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    I hope Ford makes a bunch more and I'd like it if Ford did a power increase as well. I don't think it's likely, but it would be great in my opinion.

    I understand wanting a less common car, but I like mine so much I'd like to buy another. Maybe in about 3 years if I could buy a brand new GT350 making 575-600 hp with a slightly smaller and lighter Mustang body wrapped around it.. that would be perfect! But I never thought I was buying something collectible or cared whether it would be rare. I just wanted a car that I would love to drive. And I got that.
     
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    Only time will tell if they’re more reliable.

    Call me crazy but it seems to me the increase in oil consumption complaints corresponded with the increase in production. Many of us here on the forum (small sample I know) who bought early production models have not complained of excessive oil consumption. Those that have excessive oil consumption have not been informed of the causes and now Ford is being reported to identifying the block as the fix?
     
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    I do not believe Ford has said the new block is a fix. For their to be a fix their would need to be a problem Ford has identified. Either way, the new block is virtually identical.

    I can here it now, "this is what I get for a 70k+ (GT500) car? Squeaky brakes, shit panel adjustment, shit paint, interior rattle, OPG, and oil consumption??? UNACCEPTABLE in a 70k+ car. do you here me FORD!":cwl::cwl::cwl::headbang::headbang::headbang::crackup::crackup::crackup:
     
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