Ford will offer a third engine (more powerful 2.3L EcoBoost) to 2020 Mustang lineup

[Zelek]

They're bringing back the Gen2 Coyote because they're tired of hearing about all the ticking and rattle reports.

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[Twin Turbo]

I've spoken to two people who claim that a much more complex 5.0 is on the horizon.
Take this however you want.

I'll take that as Ford are finally going to offer me the Mach 1 S550 that I want

On a slightly more serious note......I can see Ford offering the Bullitt spec 5.0 for the base spec S650 5.0 engine. They did this with the 2008 4.6 Bullitt engine which, two years later, became the base GT engine before the Coyote debuted. I still think (hope) there's life in the Coyote beyond the current Bullitt spec, so I don't doubt a "more complex" 5.0 is on the horizon.......even if that's a distant horizon

 

[Ebm]

I'll take that as Ford are finally going to offer me the Mach 1 S550 that I want

On a slightly more serious note......I can see Ford offering the Bullitt spec 5.0 for the base spec S650 5.0 engine. They did this with the 2008 4.6 Bullitt engine which, two years later, became the base GT engine before the Coyote debuted. I still think (hope) there's life in the Coyote beyond the current Bullitt spec, so I don't doubt a "more complex" 5.0 is on the horizon.......even if that's a distant horizon

But who wants a more complex car? I'd be pissed if Ford gets in over their head like Mercedes and BMW do. By this, I mean not being able to keep the Mustang after the warranty period is up for fear of the kitchen sink in need of repair. BMW and Mercedes are famous for this!

I'm okay with "just" 435 hp if it means it'll be more reliable. My Mustang isn't strictly a race car. It's also a dd.

 

[Twin Turbo]

Well, like it or not, cars are getting more complex, whether that be engine tech, hybrid tech or connectivity tech.

Unless of course, Ford were to build a much more simple V8. Perhaps with pushrods

 

[Nexus]

Interesting that the 5.0 is rated at the old 435hp and yet they state another 5.0 (with TIVCT.....which the current engine already has!) as TBD.

Be interesting to see what angle they take on this "new" Ecoboost though.

Guessing the rating is from an older doc and never updated.
0 in the 8th column is Bullitt 5L

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Here's what they need to do:

Keep the one 2.3L turbo, maybe tweak it a touch 320-330HP (but not for an additional cost to the consumer)

Then, start using the Bullitt spec package in all GTs @ 480HP - or - possibly start using the 5.2 in a CPC config, maybe with the GT350 intake/TB setup, and you're looking at 490+ HP GT

For the 3rd option, easy, the new 3.0L V6 TT Ecoboost going in the 2020 Explorer. Tuned to somewhere between the Sport's 365HP and the ST spec's 400HP.

They could have a lineup that looked like, 2.3L @ 310-315, 3.0L @ 375-385, 5.0L @ 475-480 (and then possibly a 5.2L @ 500-510HP). Then bias the content a touch, so the V6TT and V8GT "base" models get a few more bells and whistles, and the 2.3L base is really a super stripped, entry level, but still performance capable Mustang (and there's decent package + performance differences at the various price tiers).

 

[Ebm]

Here's what they need to do:

Keep the one 2.3L turbo, maybe tweak it a touch 320-330HP (but not for an additional cost to the consumer)

Then, start using the Bullitt spec package in all GTs @ 480HP - or - possibly start using the 5.2 in a CPC config, maybe with the GT350 intake/TB setup, and you're looking at 490+ HP GT

For the 3rd option, easy, the new 3.0L V6 TT Ecoboost going in the 2020 Explorer. Tuned to somewhere between the Sport's 365HP and the ST spec's 400HP.

They could have a lineup that looked like, 2.3L @ 310-315, 3.0L @ 375-385, 5.0L @ 475-480 (and then possibly a 5.2L @ 500-510HP). Then bias the content a touch, so the V6TT and V8GT "base" models get a few more bells and whistles, and the 2.3L base is really a super stripped, entry level, but still performance capable Mustang (and there's decent package + performance differences at the various price tiers).

They won't add the V6 ecoboost. It would be stepping on the toes of the GT.

 

[Ericc B]

I also think it's this.

But where would they put all the hybrid components? It's not like the S550 chassis was designed to house them.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

They won't add the V6 ecoboost. It would be stepping on the toes of the GT.

Not if the GT was 480-510HP, note my bump in HP suggestions for the "regular' GT. 375 V6 Eco vs. a 495HP GT? That's a notable difference, especially if the GT had a few unique-to-the-model options (better PP1, a fully implemented PP2 or PP3, maybe a change to the TR6060).

 

[Twin Turbo]

But where would they put all the hybrid components? It's not like the S550 chassis was designed to house them.

My assumption was the hybrid would use a similar system to the new Aviator/Explorer, so the batteries would go under the rear seat. However, those recent patents showed electric motors for the front wheels..........and hung off a V8 engine. I still think we won't see this before S650, despite Ford saying the hybrid Mustang was coming for 2020. Perhaps they'll surprise us though?

 

[Cobra Jet]

Here’s what I think:

The current 2.3T will fall to the “base” EB S550.

The “new” 2.3T will only be available to the “Performance Pack” EB’s.

Taking bets....

 

[65Terdlingua]

There is an empty slot for the 5.0l and 2.3l Seems logical that both of these TBD horsepower slots would be for a hybrid version of each. The hybrid system will be like in the Aviator, sandwiched between engine and transmission. Would be nice if it was an option for all available engines like this.

 

[Ebm]

Not if the GT was 480-510HP, note my bump in HP suggestions for the "regular' GT. 375 V6 Eco vs. a 495HP GT? That's a notable difference, especially if the GT had a few unique-to-the-model options (better PP1, a fully implemented PP2 or PP3, maybe a change to the TR6060).

If that spec sheet is right and there are 2 variations of the GT and 2 variations of the ecoboost, I don't see how a V6 would fit in there. I also can't see them ditching the 5.0 for the 5.2. The 5.0 is too symbolic of this company. But time will tell.

 

[Spider]

Guessing the rating is from an older doc and never updated.
0 in the 8th column is Bullitt 5L

Yes my Bullitt due to be built in March is engine code "0"

 

[15GTBEN]

Maybe a hybrid version but otherwise, fake news.

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