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So 100% could come from canada and be included as 100% American?
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Technically, yes. Actually, it could be made in Mexico, or in Argentina, and it would still be American. 🤓
 
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So not only are we manual guys, smarter, more handsome, and more well hung (by about 12.5 cm/5 inches if I read the article correctly) than the auto-guys, our cars are also more American.

Will this be the final nail in the coffin for the auto-guys?
LOL! Not to rain on your parade but it seems as though you own a 2020 model, not a 2021 as specified in the artical. Looks like you are on the same level of MURICA as us auto guys ;)
 

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A focus made in the German factory is of staggering build quality compared to a mustang.
One word…..Management. Flat Rock could build a Mustang as well as any overseas plant if management motivated the workforce to do so. My wife’s 2018 Escape was made in Louisville, KY and had much better build quality than my 19‘ GT/CS.
 

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One word…..Management. Flat Rock could build a Mustang as well as any overseas plant if management motivated the workforce to do so. My wife’s 2018 Escape was made in Louisville, KY and had much better build quality than my 19‘ GT/CS.
Exactly. If Ford can do it some places they could do it everywhere. So why not do it at Flatrock? Easy. Doing it that way does cost more. May not be much more but all manufacturers care about penny differences in the cost of a part. Why not pay $10 or $100 or $x more per car for better build quality? Easy, again. The number of buyers who buy a Camaro or Challenger just because of Ford's build quality compared to those car's build quality is tiny and worth less than the $x per car it would cost to build them better.

So, we are a major cause.
 

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So 100% could come from canada and be included as 100% American?
I believe only USA and Canada are considered domestic content. Mexico isn't, but it is North American.
 

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Exactly. If Ford can do it some places they could do it everywhere. So why not do it at Flatrock? Easy. Doing it that way does cost more. May not be much more but all manufacturers care about penny differences in the cost of a part. Why not pay $10 or $100 or $x more per car for better build quality? Easy, again. The number of buyers who buy a Camaro or Challenger just because of Ford's build quality compared to those car's build quality is tiny and worth less than the $x per car it would cost to build them better.

So, we are a major cause.
My point is that Ford ensure a focus,fiesta,Ranger,puma etc are built properly. Whey don’t they bother with the mustang. I’m sure most buyers would elect to pay £1000 more for one that doesn’t fall apart or rust in 4 yrs
 

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I believe only USA and Canada are considered domestic content. Mexico isn't, but it is North American.
I didn’t realize we annexed Canada. We’ll there goes my bragging about my Mustang being far more American than a Challenger.

*edit: forgot the engine is made in Windsor, the tranny China…
 

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My point is that Ford ensure a focus,fiesta,Ranger,puma etc are built properly. Whey don’t they bother with the mustang. I’m sure most buyers would elect to pay £1000 more for one that doesn’t fall apart or rust in 4 yrs
You might believe that most buyers would pay $x more for better Mustang build quality because buyers of their better built models will. But Ford does not believe that. Different target audiences and different competitors.
 

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You might believe that most buyers would pay $x more for better Mustang build quality because buyers of their better built models will. But Ford does not believe that. Different target audiences and different competitors.
I guess you must be right. The home market is massive and is acclimatised to accepting any old shite. They don’t sell enough export ones to care about expectations elsewhere in the world.
 

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My engine was built in Spain.
 

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Part of the reason the Ecoboost is way down the list.
Yes but only about 2500 eco boosts were hpp out of more than 50,000 eco boosts. All of the regular ecos were built in Cleveland OH. Must be the Chinese MT-82s. If the A-10s are built in the US them I think they made a mistake.
 

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After reviewing this article multiple times, I find it a fail. It fails to define many of the terms used and source of its data. It's nearly meaningless in any of its claims.
 
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