Fair price on a 2021 Mach 1

[Bruce 8858]

I've been shopping these for about 7 months.

What I've seen lately is I can buy a 2022 for what I was shopping a 2021 for in late spring, and I'm noticing the trend nationwide.
I was a day late on buying a FJG loaded HP on FBM a month ago .. the guy sold it to a dealer for $52k the day prior. And on the other side, a 2022 loaded HP sold for $59k not long ago from a dealer. Timing is everything.

The best price is what someone is willing to pay unfortunately, and right now with interest rates where they are, its a tough private sale IMO.

If you can strike a fair price with a dealer, that's your easiest route. I've seen 2021's priced $49-56k, dealer pricing. Figure they are buying at wholesale and that puts you $2-6k below that on average.

KBB has a seller option called Instant Cash option too where local dealers will offer to buy the car at the price stated by KBB. Its not necessarily the worst option if you need to get out from under the loan.

As for BaT, there was a 2022 loaded HP on there that sold for $50ish not long ago. Its an easy setup for the seller, but the buyer gets hit with some buyer fees (plus shipping or a flight, etc) and thats why I steer clear.

Hope this helps and wish you well in your recovery.

This is about what I am figuring. I tried a couple of car buying sites, Driveway had the best at $47,400, CarMax the worst at $43,000. The local car dealers would be in that price range. I don’t have a loan on it fortunately, so that’s a plus.

I have been in contact with an auto broker in South Florida, sent him a few photos and he thinks he could possibly get somewhere in the mid to low $50’s. I would have to pay a 6% commission. There would be a monthly advertising fee until sold or canceled. Either way I would probably wind up under $50k. I was hoping to stay around that but it is a 3 year old vehicle so it is what it is.

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[noac]

If 50k is your number why not put and ad up on this site? Sounds like a very fair price on a great car.

 

[RocketGuy3]

Sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope you feel better and are able to buy back in on a car you enjoy... maybe the new Dark Horse is in your future?

If you're really worried about finding the right initial price, you could let the market decide for you via a site like Cars and Bids or BAT. Honestly given what you've said about your situation, that seems to me like it might be your best bet. I'm certainly no expert on auto sales, though.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Bruce,
We use Black Book for all our car evals.

Says car is worth about ~$53k if yours is loaded w/ everything, except Recaro's.

If you want I can give you a link to it, & you can run it yourself, as I don't know which state your in, & on some vehicles, it matters.

Perhaps asking on your own, ~$57k,
& expect the 6% to the broker to be your room to bargain.

Good luck. Sorry to here of your health situation. I hope whatever you decide, it works out. Its a desirable car. Someone will want it. Hopefully with the election coming up, they will do a few things to get things moving in a better direction w/bank loans & fuel prices.

 

[Bruce 8858]

Bruce,
We use Black Book for all our car evals.

Says car is worth about ~$53k if yours is loaded w/ everything, except Recaro's.

If you want I can give you a link to it, & you can run it yourself, as I don't know which state your in, & on some vehicles, it matters.

Perhaps asking on your own, ~$57k,
& expect the 6% to the broker to be your room to bargain.

Good luck. Sorry to here of your health situation. I hope whatever you decide, it works out. Its a desirable car. Someone will want it. Hopefully with the election coming up, they will do a few things to get things moving in a better direction w/bank loans & fuel prices.

Thanks for the information. If you could send me the link. I don’t know if location matters, but it might.

 

[PhillyMike]

If 50k is your number why not put and ad up on this site? Sounds like a very fair price on a great car.

Second that. If I didn't already have my '23 GT, I'd be very tempted by 50K for that car if you were within 200mi.

 

[derklink]

Bruce,
We use Black Book for all our car evals.

Says car is worth about ~$53k if yours is loaded w/ everything, except Recaro's.

If you want I can give you a link to it, & you can run it yourself, as I don't know which state your in, & on some vehicles, it matters.

Perhaps asking on your own, ~$57k,
& expect the 6% to the broker to be your room to bargain.

Good luck. Sorry to here of your health situation. I hope whatever you decide, it works out. Its a desirable car. Someone will want it. Hopefully with the election coming up, they will do a few things to get things moving in a better direction w/bank loans & fuel prices.

I understand that this is just a pricing tool and it deducts value for a manual because the auto was an option. My crystal ball tells me that manuals will probably be more coveted in the future though.

 

[Crew4991]

I’m wanting to sell my 2021 Mach 1. I’m starting to have health problems and am haven’t driven it much for one reason or another. It is a 2021 FJG, A10 fully loaded except Recaro seats. I’ve added Xpel PPF entire front clip, door cups, and 11” above windshield. Automotive Authority spare , WeatherTech floor and rear mats. Ceramic coating, garage kept. 7,400 miles.
Im just trying to come up with a fair value price. I am considering using an auto broker but would have to pay off of my end for their services but I think they could sell it faster and would do all the work, vetting buyer’s, assisting with financing and advertising. Finding transportation for the buyer.

Please no negative comments. I appreciate the information on this site and its members. I have learned a lot from it.

Thanks

Hi OP, sad you are considering selling your Mach 1. I ran some Blackbook auction data on the description of your car you described. Hopefully this helps you with getting an idea for the value of your car.

Cheers,

 

[sleepy floy]

Can you post some pics? I'm in CA, so not ideal...but possibly interested.

 

[noac]

I understand that this is just a pricing tool and it deducts value for a manual because the auto was an option. My crystal ball tells me that manuals will probably be more coveted in the future though.

yes the whole point of the Mach is 5.0+tremec.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Thanks for the information. If you could send me the link. I don’t know if location matters, but it might.

Bruce,
Here is our non paywall version I started giving out to mass amts of people here on 6g while bk. This version is the free version of an otherwise paywall software. So the aggregate data is the same for all intensive purposes.

Still much better than Kbb or NADA. Those go by quarters, or every 2 quarters, which is ok, unless real market changes take place like fuel prices or a new war breaking out & effecting markets somehow. They don't give loan values & a few other bits though.

BLACK BOOK has taken a hit in popularity in Paywall Vehicle Evaluation software, since 'Manheim' came along doing an even more thorough job of weekly aggregate. Manheim = weekly basis, vs monthly w/ Blackbook.

Dealership version of Blackbook is a paywall software, & once used by literally all dealerships, in vehicle values for many many yrs. Decades. Manheim paywall costs even more.

As many hace suggested, you may consider taking some good pictures of everything inside and out. Describe not only car, but the conditions you store it in, & drive it in. A good car description is invaluable when selling. Followed only by as many pictures as possible, with accurate depictions of any blemishes/damages, scratches, & paint chips. People will likely believe an add that has its issues pointed out, & everyone knows used cars have blemishes from use in most cases. Hiding them only makes the sale go worse in the long run.

Might consider offering a carfax on it as well. Its a small price to get people to chose your car over 1 that isn't offering a detailed history of a vehicle.

Sounds like a nice car. Nice cars that are not hot rod modded sell easier in most situations.

Make SURE YOU refresh BB after checking all boxes & getting mileage/state inputs entered correctly, so it will calculate everything properly.

Go up & down like 1yr or so on your model, (if your interested in that stuff) from your own mdl year, as you might see (a few, or not) options that became either more, or less prevalent, in that timeline of a few yrs.

Auctions must know about options to report them in sales figures, so in the end, its just a guide that dealers & buyers use as markets move. Your looking at the private party numbers more than full retail by dealership. As they offer a comfort that has added value for many buyers, including qwik answers to financing.

You may not see your exact options like Mag ride described as Mag ride, but if its loaded w/o Recaro's...
just check everything but Recaro's. They don't always call ea option by same name & the same way, FoMoCo does.

This is nationwide auction data aggregated. People get hung up on things like mag ride, & not having a box for it to check, & wanting a box for that..
when the auction buyers & sellers, they dont give 2 chits about some of these feature in certain model cars/trucks. Its what moves thru the sales block that matters to them

They care about what the average used car lot buyer cares about, to sell a car to Average Joe & Jane & make a profit. May not always make sense to us.

Again, good luck on it. You really should try sellin on your own. The Weather conditiond outside in some areas of lower 48 will be a bit harsher soon, so time is not 100% on your side in some areas of the nation.





http://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/...olesale=True&showretail=True&showtradein=True

 

[Bruce 8858]

Can you post some pics? I'm in CA, so not ideal...but possibly interested.

Bruce,
Here is our non paywall version I started giving out to mass amts of people here on 6g while bk. This version is the free version of an otherwise paywall software. So the aggregate data is the same for all intensive purposes.

Still much better than Kbb or NADA. Those go by quarters, or every 2 quarters, which is ok, unless real market changes take place like fuel prices or a new war breaking out & effecting markets somehow. They don't give loan values & a few other bits though.

BLACK BOOK has taken a hit in popularity in Paywall Vehicle Evaluation software, since 'Manheim' came along doing an even more thorough job of weekly aggregate. Manheim = weekly basis, vs monthly w/ Blackbook.

Dealership version of Blackbook is a paywall software, & once used by literally all dealerships, in vehicle values for many many yrs. Decades. Manheim paywall costs even more.

As many hace suggested, you may consider taking some good pictures of everything inside and out. Describe not only car, but the conditions you store it in, & drive it in. A good car description is invaluable when selling. Followed only by as many pictures as possible, with accurate depictions of any blemishes/damages, scratches, & paint chips. People will likely believe an add that has its issues pointed out, & everyone knows used cars have blemishes from use in most cases. Hiding them only makes the sale go worse in the long run.

Might consider offering a carfax on it as well. Its a small price to get people to chose your car over 1 that isn't offering a detailed history of a vehicle.

Sounds like a nice car. Nice cars that are not hot rod modded sell easier in most situations.

Make SURE YOU refresh BB after checking all boxes & getting mileage/state inputs entered correctly, so it will calculate everything properly.

Go up & down like 1yr or so on your model, (if your interested in that stuff) from your own mdl year, as you might see (a few, or not) options that became either more, or less prevalent, in that timeline of a few yrs.

Auctions must know about options to report them in sales figures, so in the end, its just a guide that dealers & buyers use as markets move. Your looking at the private party numbers more than full retail by dealership. As they offer a comfort that has added value for many buyers, including qwik answers to financing.

You may not see your exact options like Mag ride described as Mag ride, but if its loaded w/o Recaro's...
just check everything but Recaro's. They don't always call ea option by same name & the same way, FoMoCo does.

This is nationwide auction data aggregated. People get hung up on things like mag ride, & not having a box for it to check, & wanting a box for that..
when the auction buyers & sellers, they dont give 2 chits about some of these feature in certain model cars/trucks. Its what moves thru the sales block that matters to them

They care about what the average used car lot buyer cares about, to sell a car to Average Joe & Jane & make a profit. May not always make sense to us.

Again, good luck on it. You really should try sellin on your own. The Weather conditiond outside in some areas of lower 48 will be a bit harsher soon, so time is not 100% on your side in some areas of the nation.





http://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/...olesale=True&showretail=True&showtradein=True

Thanks for the link and information. I appreciate it.

 

[IPOGT]

If 50k is your number why not put and ad up on this site? Sounds like a very fair price on a great car.

You'll sell it here. Pretty sure. Someone with a paid off nice similarly low mileage GT would love the opportunity to step up for a relatively small amount of $. Plus, I would think knowing the original owner is a major advantage.

 

[dethmaShine]

I don't see why someone here won't buy it with the price you are offering. I have seen similar ones go for slightly higher.

 

[IPOGT]

yes the whole point of the Mach is 5.0+tremec.

Nope. It’s a complete package. Been there, have one.

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