ESS Centrifugal Mustang Superchargers

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Thanks for the reply.

1. This was something I was thinking about as well, and adding a separate tune after the fact certainly skews the pricing here.

2. I'm not a road racer, but I enjoy carving corners and with all of the additional Steeda components I've added to the car, It's at a pretty good baseline, so removing any bracing isn't ideal, but if I can maintain the strut brace at least it's not two components removed like with the Whipple kit.

I'm definitely going back and forth on the power delivery, I've played plenty with turbo vehicles, but not so much with superchargers. The PD type of delivery sounds great, but at the same time, having all that power instantly available may not be ideal on the road. My car isn't a daily driver, so I'm less concerned about some parts of this, but at the end of the day, I want it to maintain reliability and drivability. So maybe a Centrifugal is a good compromise for this.
Centrifugal SC's and the A10 are a match made in heaven. 1st and 2nd are pretty much useless anyway on an unprepped surface with the ESS kit, so I don't think you will miss not having an over abundance of torque down low. Plus, you'll likely save a few broken drivetrain parts with the power delivery of the centrifugal.
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Centrifugal SC's and the A10 are a match made in heaven. 1st and 2nd are pretty much useless anyway on an unprepped surface with the ESS kit, so I don't think you will miss not having an over abundance of torque down low. Plus, you'll likely save a few broken drivetrain parts with the power delivery of the centrifugal.
I've got a 6 speed, which is why I was wondering about the lower range power.
 

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I've got a 6 speed, which is why I was wondering about the lower range power.
I too have the 6 speed. Next time you drive around, keep an eye on your RPMs. When you're having fun, see how much time you spend under 4k. For me, it isn't much. Less torque in the lower RPMs will help the tires get traction and make sure the clutch is fully engaged. Win-win!
 

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I too have the 6 speed. Next time you drive around, keep an eye on your RPMs. When you're having fun, see how much time you spend under 4k. For me, it isn't much. Less torque in the lower RPMs will help the tires get traction and make sure the clutch is fully engaged. Win-win!
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Its better to have linear power that hooks up... and its also easier on the drivetrain. If you care about handling and taking corners, well modulated linear is good.
Unless you are running DR's, a E85/LTH setup is getting pretty stout for what you can hook up down low. I dont think you will be disappointed with centrifugal power down low... and it will just keep pulling and pulling...
 

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I've got a 6 speed, which is why I was wondering about the lower range power.
Since you have a manual, I'm sure compared to the PD blower you'll probably miss the low end grunt because a centrifugal can be a little lazy under 4000rpm on the Coyote motor depending on how aggressive you are with your pulley set up. It really boils down to how you want your power delivered and the rpm range you spend most of your time in. Me personally I like the power delivery of a centrifugal, I can see why you're torn though, if I had a manual I would probably feel differently.
 

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New PB 60-130mph on Sunoco 260GT 100 Octane Ambient Temps 66F and 721ft DA

Previous Best - 7.03 on 93 w/Octanium in similar temps and DA Same Pulley 115mm (8.5-9psi)

Just to give perspective... this should equate to roughly a 10.2 or 10.3 at 137mph all other things being equal.

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you'll probably miss the low end grunt because a centrifugal can be a little lazy under 4000rpm
With PP1, we have 3.73 gears. That should help get the RPMs up sooner.
Having said that, I haven’t installed (or even received) my kit yet, so everything I’ve shared is theoretical. There are some good numbers in this thread, but most, if not all, are with the A10. (I’m not going back through all 90+ pages to double check!)
 
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With PP1, we have 3.73 gears. That should help get the RPMs up sooner.
Having said that, I haven’t installed (or even received) my kit yet, so everything I’ve shared is theoretical. There are some good numbers in this thread, but most, if not all, are with the A10. (I’m not going back through all 90+ pages to double check!)
did it ship? My G3 shipped Tuesday an they haven’t even received inner coolers yet. So I’m getting half a kit supposed to be delivered tomorrow. Every day it’s they coming they out for delivery and they never come in. My car is just sitting on a lift apart with fuel system installed just waiting.
 

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did it ship? My G3 shipped Tuesday an they haven’t even received inner coolers yet. So I’m getting half a kit supposed to be delivered tomorrow. Every day it’s they coming they out for delivery and they never come in. My car is just sitting on a lift apart with fuel system installed just waiting.
It will be worthit I promise. The install is very easy and simple while also being very well thought out. The performance and the room to grow with the platform is also top of pack in my opinion.
 

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With PP1, we have 3.73 gears. That should help get the RPMs up sooner.
Having said that, I haven’t installed (or even received) my kit yet, so everything I’ve shared is theoretical. There are some good numbers in this thread, but most, if not all, are with the A10. (I’m not going back through all 90+ pages to double check!)
The A10 is just fundamentally quicker for a 60-130 run and for everything else in a straight line. I would be at the very limit of 2nd gear so I would have to shift immediately or bog down in 3rd then fight traction as the curve in power hits. I haven't done a dragy test or a .25 mile. I'm sure at some point I will but I haven't found a safe place to try and I also don't know how much more the clutch will take:whew:.
 

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The A10 is just fundamentally quicker for a 60-130 run and for everything else in a straight line.
With the 3.73 gears I redline in 2nd gear at about 72 MPH, so yes, a 60-130 run is not ideal for the manual transmission (regardless of upgrades). But I'm more interested in spirited canyon/mountain drives. Most of my time is in 2nd gear, around 30-70 MPH, which keeps the RPMs above 4k. Based on the posted dynos, there should be a lot more power to play with in that range.

But until my kit ships (it hasn't yet), I get the kit installed (could take a few weeks), and I have time to take it for a fun drive (probably many more weeks) I won't have anything to report...

My car is just sitting on a lift apart with fuel system installed just waiting.
I am so sorry! I can't imagine how frustrating that must be. I ordered and received all my supporting parts from other companies over a month ago, but they are sitting on the shelf waiting for the kit. In ESS's defense, shipping ports and customs are extremely bogged down right now. It's causing issues with the entire country's supply chain, and there isn't anything they can do about it! I'm sure ESS would love nothing more than to get their kits shipped out and make more happy customers.

I ordered oil cooler hoses from England last year for my daughter's 1970 MG Midget that I'm restoring, and I'm STILL waiting for them! (tracking shows they arrived in NY yesterday, so I'm *hoping* to get them sometime next week 🤞)
 

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