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Has anybody done this? If not, what the hell are y'all waiting on?! :thumbsup:
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Because the stock intake is better?
 
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Because the stock intake is better?
The CJ outflows it. The charge valves help with low end power, but after that the CJ out performs it. If I were doing full exhaust and E85, it seems like the next logical step.
 

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Someone tested it, scj intake had more midrange, but lost on peak power to the gt350 intake.
 
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That's surprising, it's the opposite on the 5.0.
 

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That's surprising, it's the opposite on the 5.0.
Well midrange is 6 to 7k rpm. Close gearing and high rpm really change what's the middle of the powerband. It should be rare on a track that you go as low as 5k.
 
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Well midrange is 6 to 7k rpm. Close gearing and high rpm really change what's the middle of the powerband. It should be rare on a track that you go as low as 5k.
I'm rev'ing out to 8 now, 9 shorty. I went CJ, since the 350 just can't flow on the same level at that high of a RPM. The throttle body alone is a huge difference. Every graph I've seen to date has the 350 tapering out past 7,500 on a smaller displacement engine than yours.

Can you link me to the tests you're speaking of? I'm curious to see what injectors and throttle body they are using. Also, are they running factory exhaust manifolds?
 

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I'm rev'ing out to 8 now, 9 shorty. I went CJ, since the 350 just can't flow on the same level at that high of a RPM. The throttle body alone is a huge difference. Every graph I've seen to date has the 350 tapering out past 7,500 on a smaller displacement engine than yours.

Can you link me to the tests you're speaking of? I'm curious to see what injectors and throttle body they are using. Also, are they running factory exhaust manifolds?
The other site has a full article on everything you need to know. Google cobra jet manifold gt350.

Spinning to 9k. For what purpose?
 

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It doesn't fit the gt350.. It's already been tested.. Also it's not worth the upgrade since the gt350 intake mani is pretty damn good. VMP did comparison, look it up.
 

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How is a Coyote not letting go at 8k, let alone 9?
Boss motor didn't quite meet ford's requirements for longevity at 8K

9K on a race motor designed for it isn't out of the question.
 
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There's people spinning them much higher than that. I know of a few running out past 10k.

Most people with only tunes are reving to 8k, with my build 9k will be easily obtainable. With the exception of the crank our engines are basically the same configuration. You're even better off with the sleeve coating and pistons you have. The 5.2 should be capable of a reliable 10k with the right supporting modifications. That doesn't mean much if you're not setup handle the increased flow at that RPM.

VMP did the testing?
 
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That dyno graph doesn't look right...

What injectors do y'all have?
 
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Found the reason for the drop off....

The car retains stock exhaust. If you can't get the air out fast enough, it doesn't matter what you can put in. So, that brings me back to the original point. This engine with full exhaust, E85, and supporting mods would immensely benefit from a CJ. It should fit with drop mounts and the strut bar removed. 530-550 RWHP would probably be within the realm of possibility without opening the engine. I would at least do CG and OPG before turning the redline up much more.
 

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Found the reason for the drop off....

The car retains stock exhaust. If you can't get the air out fast enough, it doesn't matter what you can put in. So, that brings me back to the original point. This engine with full exhaust, E85, and supporting mods would immensely benefit from a CJ. It should fit with drop mounts and the strut bar removed. 530-550 RWHP would probably be within the realm of possibility without opening the engine. I would at least do CG and OPG before turning the redline up much more.
Gt350 mani is a great all around mani.. There is a reason why VMP went back and kept the gt350 mani vs the CJ. The stock gt350 2.75" exhuast does flow a lot more that the stock GT exhaust.

Throw it on your GT350 and let us know how it goes.
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