Christians DON'T really practice what they preach most days

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  1. Blue Moon

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    "Judgement" can be a vague word, used in different ways with different meanings. When the Bible says we should judge wisely, it means we should use good judgement, make wise choices, do the right thing. When the Bible says not to judge, it means it's not our place to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, that judgement is up to God (the ultimate judge on the great white throne), not us. So there's no contradiction in the way the Bible tells us to judge, and not to judge.
     
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    Very true. I think some people consider opinion with judgement. Do I think it's wrong to do X/Y? That's my opinion. Do I think the Bible (Or some other text) says X/Y is wrong? I would also say that is an opinion. Saying "This is wrong" would be judging, but I would argue the Bible says not to do that (The men wanting to stone the prostitute, Jesus not judging people on the cross "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"). On the other hand, I think we are supposed to judge other Christians. Just like Jesus did on the moneychangers and like Paul did when he wrote the Corinthians. I personally love the olde English in the KJV, but perhaps the NLT translation is easier to read (1 Corinthians 5:12-13):

    I will admit, I am more than willing to express my beliefs, and give people my opinion when asked. And I will go as far as saying "I think this is a sin because the Bible states...". I don't see anything hypocritical about it though. Although I would disagree with someone telling me that they think I am wrong because Zeus said that something I'm doing is a sin, I would respect their opinion. I think people get upset just at someone expressing their opinion. Tolerance works both ways if you ask me.

    But in keeping in line with this thread, and as I confessed earlier, sure I have judged before. Even with restraint, I am (We Christians are) passionate about our beliefs and of course sometimes our feelings gets the best of us (But I think that applies to all belief-centric-groups, whether it be Buddhists, Environmentalists, Car Enthusiasts and so on).

    Forgive me for this, but since we are presumably all car guys, I had to think of this...

     
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    Sorry, but I do not read the chapter being discussed that way. No where does it speak about going to Heaven or hell. On the contrary, it is speaking about judging in context of God's law on a daily basis and for petty purposes. It goes on to say that it is not up to us to judge our neighbor in these terms. So, again, I see that as a matter of interpretation, which there is no lack of.
     
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    The problem with Christianity has always been Christians, my self included. We can only pray to become more Christ like but it is impossible to become Christ like as long as we are on this earth! Jesus took 10 commandments and simplified them into two, unfortunately we still struggle to follow just two. With that said I would like to say a prayer for us. Please Jesus help us become more like you, let us pray for everyone that knows they need you and even more so for those who think they don't. In your name we pray, Amen!
     
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    I wish more Christian Conservatives spoke up in the way you have. It would be a lot less grueling place for us all to live. I’m an atheist and a liberal. But i respect where you are coming from and your values even if I don’t agree with many of them.
     
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    I’ve read many very thoughtful remarks in this thread. Far better than I was expecting to be honest.

    I’m a liberal and an atheist. But my point of view does descend quite a lot from Jesus. The whole judge not, love thy neighbor, do unto others.. etc. these are very good tenets to live your life by.

    for me liberalism can be boiled down to one thing. Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my face begins.

    I appreciate people’s faith. Especially if it propels them to do good things. What I wish though is for religion to stay out of politics.
     
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    Honestly, it’s a good thing that Christians don’t practice everything that’s preached in the bible.
    The world would be a much worse place if they did.
    I say that respectfully but with some provocation for critical thought.
     
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    Because abortion.
     
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    I agree.


    As far as religion goes with me, I'm an ex-mormon.

    I don't miss the "do as I say, not as I do", "give us your time and money" mentalitys and other forms of control.
     
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    Happy Easter, everyone. Remember, your church building may be empty at Easter sunrise this year, but so was the tomb.
     
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    Amen! He has risen!!:thumbsup::angel::dance:
     
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