Car and Driver - GT350 Long Term Test Wrap Up After 40k Miles

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    I don't think I ever seen a less than positive review from a professional media outlet. I feel the C&D long term wrap up was quite balanced, highlighting the pros & cons. I believe for most GT350 owners, the pros greatly outweigh the cons.
     
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    I take exception to their comments about having to fill up every 300 miles. My bladder needs a break by that time anyway. Awesome car.
     
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    I have the magazine (it's cheap to get it by mail).

    1) I am not sure what they meant about the damage from a tank-slapping ride into the loose gravel? I try to stay on the pavement as this is clearly driver error.

    2) They say the spectacular handling is attributable to its aggressive wheel alignment. So, it is running a lot of negative camber and little toe-in in stock form? Yet, they replace only rear tires at 20K miles and wait until 23K miles for the front tires? This seems like good tire usage to me?

    3) I don't understand why one loose lug nut could possibly cause damage to an entire shifter assembly, a failure of a rear wheel bearing, and the half-shaft, They say that they swapped rear wheels to fix it, but that seems to be a hope and a prayer to me.

    4) I also disagree that their $60K car will depreciate to $21K in five years? I suspect it will be closer to $30K+.

    I scanned and cropped the article. Here is the last page with the summary:
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    It was not a loose lug nut. It was the large nut on the spindle or axel arm that holds the wheel bearing bearing in. Least that’s what I think they mean.
     
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    3) It was two separate issues. The vibration from the shifter was one issue, solved by the replacement of the entire shifter assembly and bezel. (But there's also Auto Fanatic's youtube fix that is far easier to resolve this one.) The second issue was the clicking sound from the left rear wheel. Which the dealer thought was caused by a bad wheel bearing or axle nut that wasn't torqued correctly. But yet the sound remained, until the rear wheels were swapped. So I suspect that perhaps it was left rear wheel lugs that weren't torqued tight enough.

    4) That kind of depreciation probably only applies to the C&D test car, which they beat the snot out of. LOL. :cwl:
     
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    That does make sense, and I've never seen the assembly (anyone have a picture or service manual picture?). I'd say that those four nuts that join the half-shafts to the rear spindle should torqued properly? It would be behind the rear rotor so you must remove it first.

    I'd think the vibration started long before they started looking for the cause? Do you think switching the rear wheels cured this issue?

    They ran the 2017 GT350 car hard to get 40K miles on it in 16 months.
     
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    My CTSVs were bad about clicking if some dirt or grunge got between the wheel and rotor hub and if you did not torque them to factory specs. If they simply took the wheel off, cleaned it’s hub surface and the surface of the rotor hub, then used the right torwue on the lug nuts, it probably would have quit clicking
     
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    I thought it was a great article and a testament to the FPC engine holding up to serious abuse.
     
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    Walter Burns.

    My hero!
     
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    My car is still on order.

    I am not scared about the almost one quart of oil consumed every 1200 miles. I am also not concerned about the higher than normal depreciation.

    Here is the third page:Vodoo2.jpg
     
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    No smoke? Where the hell is all that oil going?
     
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    Light....Golden hour light. Looks like the picture is taken at/around sunset. A relatively long exposure by the blurred person behind the car... It also helps that the building in the background is lit the way it is to add some atmosphere….
     
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    Either way it's a stunning shot! The GT 350 is the only mustang I would consider in grabber blue!
     
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    That is one FINE looking car, esp. in that first picture. Wowzers! And to think I was a Camaro/Trans Am guy nearly my entire life.
     
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    Interesting they attributed the 'ticking noise' to piston slap; there's a boatload of 'theories' as to why the Coyotes develop the 'BBQ tick.'

    A quart of oil every 500 miles; hell, my old British cars get a thou or two per quart (I know, no comparison). Sounds like the Recaros aren't that great for a DD (and you give up power and heat/cool).
     
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    21.5 quarts of oil plus 5 dealer oil changes at 10 quarts per change is 70+. How much more oil can those CATs take before they clog up? And the cost to replace these will make the tire replacement cost look like pocket change. Piston slap is normal! Run another 40K and lets see where this motor is at 80K+.
     
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    I didn't know the cars ate oil like that. This was a good read tho. I wouldn't consider recaros for any daily driver...but the fact they had it for 40k miles and didn't hate them tells me they are comfortable track seats.

    I sure wish there was a way to add magnetic rides to existing S550s That would be the biz!
     
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    Probably a small aperture longish exposure (a second or two)....and a decent lens with AG coatings to not bloom out the neon.
    But I'm just guessing...
     
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    I think it's a fairly flattering article for an awesome car, it's hard to have 100% perfection when you have this kind of performance. You know this car wasn't babied, it was probably thrashed and seems to have taken it well. I love my GT350, I almost never listen to the radio, in fact I had it 6 months before I figured out how to turn it on. The engine sounds are music to my ears. Mine is a 2016 Track Pack car.
     
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    What the heck? How did I miss this? I have been starting the car (at 5:30 AM before work) with the Garage door shut so the bark doesn't wake the neighbors. I feel like a :crazy: now, but I learn something new on the site every time i visit.

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