C&D Lightning Lap 2018 Results for GT PP2

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  1. Stuntman

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    The GT350 has bespoke PSS, so it's probably stickier than a standard off the shelf PSS. But then again, the same goes for the stickier PSC2.
     
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    From what BJR said about the Cup 2's on the PP2, they are not the same as what comes on the R in terms of compound/design. I would say they favor closer to off the shelf Cup 2's which are not as sticky but tend to have deeper treadwdith and last a lot longer. I may even try some OTS Cup 2's next to see if I can get more than 5K out of them (~7200kms on OEM Cup 2's and they were slicks lol).
     
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    I agree the tire tread width matters and part of the performance of the SC2 tires on the GT350R or the PP2 is compound but another significant contributor to their performance is tread width.

    It makes sense that the tramlining is more of an issue with tires that are not only wider, but have more square shoulders and a stickier compound.
     
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    Who? I thought in a Ford press release they said it was the GT350R front tire all around.
     
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    #145 J_Maher_AMG, Oct 10, 2018
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    Billy Johnson (BillyJohnsonRacing on here); they specifically said it is not the same as the GT350R tire and that it isn't as aggressive a compound, just the same nominal size. More street friendly/durable compound.
     
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    Hate to bring up a sour subject, buuuuuuut...
    "Our test gear confirmed these impressions, with the Level 2 hanging on for 1.06 g of stick on our skidpad with minimal understeer. Just a few hundredths shy of the 1.10 g posted by the Shelby GT350R, it tops the 1.02 g of grip earned by our long-term Mustang Shelby GT350."

    Also like to point out, the stop from 70MPH in the PP2 was 146ft, albeit "the well-worn tires on our Ford test car, could easily have affected the outcome."... The GT350 pulled 153ft from the same test by the same publication
     
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    My OEM PSS's lasted three track days. For track duty, I replaced them with SC2's on lightweight forged wheels. Most of the GT350s I see on the track have also replaced their tires and boat anchor OEM wheels with better options.


    Outside of magazine benchmark racing, I am not sure how many GT350 owners are tracking their cars at 100% OEM spec once the super sports wear out. They are great street tires, but the SC2s are so much better.


    In the hands of equally skilled drivers, I am not surprised a PP2 can outperform a GT350 with stock tires on certain tracks.
     
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    Yep, that's exactly what I've been saying. The SC2s are incredible tires, and MUCH better than the PSS. It's not hard to believe that a stock PP2 can outperform a stock GT350, and the thought of having to spend $1600 on tires for a car that's already $10k+ more expensive just to make it faster doesn't sound so sweet to me
     
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    Yea I'm sure it came down to cost, but I think it's silly Ford went so far to build a great track care only to hamstring it with heavy wheels and street tires. I wish they would have offered a forged aluminum option with a better tire as a premium purchase option, but oh well. At least you can get a variation of the SC2s on the 19's and forward.
     
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    Not sure if I mentioned in this thread, but I think the GT350 should have been discontinued in 2018 (if the GT500 would've come out then like we all thought) and the GT350R should've stuck around. That way, the PP2 wouldn't have to be neutered and probably would've had a diff cooler added at least, the R could sit in for the people who just want an all out N/A track car, and the GT500 could take the void for those who just want a tear-your-face-off all around fast car
     
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