Sponsored

C&D history of mustang 0-60 times

Shifting_Gears

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2018
Threads
88
Messages
2,027
Reaction score
1,687
Location
South Florida
Vehicle(s)
2016 Mustang GT
I think they skipped a few essential models like Fox coupe vs hatch, 94/95 5.0, 99-04 GT, 18+ 10 speed car.. for a few examples.

None the less, great read. Thanks for posting.
 

obgod3

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 26, 2015
Threads
9
Messages
570
Reaction score
380
Location
N.C.
Vehicle(s)
2019 GT, PP1, 401A, A10
How cool that white ‘83 is exactly the car I had, thought is was so fast then....both my tundra and my Mazda 6 will smoke it today....LOL
 

Hack

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2014
Threads
83
Messages
12,311
Reaction score
7,480
Location
Minneapolis
Vehicle(s)
Mustang, Camaro
They were mean to the 1971 Boss 351! :crying::crying::crying: I love me some 351 Cleveland engine. Maybe that car wasn't fast to 60, but it was quick through the quarter mile (for the time).
 

Spork3245

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2017
Threads
41
Messages
1,519
Reaction score
718
Location
NJ
Vehicle(s)
2019 GT Premium PP1 w/Magneride
It’s amazing how in the late 60s and early 70s that 0-60 and quarter times were dropping steadily, even starting to come to today’s crazy standards, them BOOM, 10+ seconds was considered acceptable. IIRC, this had a lot to do with people wanting better mpg and lead being removed from gasoline, but still... Not Mustang related but it’s incredible that a Ford GT MKII ran the numbers it did, numbers that are still considered “quick” today.
 

Sponsored

Hack

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2014
Threads
83
Messages
12,311
Reaction score
7,480
Location
Minneapolis
Vehicle(s)
Mustang, Camaro
It’s amazing how in the late 60s and early 70s that 0-60 and quarter times were dropping steadily, even starting to come to today’s crazy standards, them BOOM, 10+ seconds was considered acceptable. IIRC, this had a lot to do with people wanting better mpg and lead being removed from gasoline, but still... Not Mustang related but it’s incredible that a Ford GT MKII ran the numbers it did, numbers that are still considered “quick” today.
It could happen again sooner than you think depending on who makes the rules that govern vehicles and their performance. Getting from 0-60 quickly is definitely not an efficient use of energy.
 

tokuzumi

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2019
Threads
1
Messages
369
Reaction score
173
Location
Atlanta
Vehicle(s)
2004 Escalade ESV
They were mean to the 1971 Boss 351! :crying::crying::crying: I love me some 351 Cleveland engine. Maybe that car wasn't fast to 60, but it was quick through the quarter mile (for the time).
We look back on the muscle car era with rose colored glasses. Only a couple of cars were actually quick by today's standards. Most of those cars ran a 15-16 second 1/4, and would be left in the dust by a early 2000s Honda Civic Si. I think it was C&D who had an article with early 00s MazdaSpeed 3, Sentra R, and a Civic Si, and talked about how the 0-60 of most of those cars were lower than the holy grail cars from the late 60s. They felt fast because of all that torque, but when you have to shift at 4k because the engine ran out of power band, it's kind of hard to get any real good performance numbers.

However, some vehicles did leave a lot on the table, and if you adjusted a few carb settings, timing, along with some other minor tweaks, you could extract a lot more performance.

I would much prefer to own a 71-73 Mustang, compared to a newer Civic, but I also don't forget how much cars have improved over the decades.
 

Spork3245

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2017
Threads
41
Messages
1,519
Reaction score
718
Location
NJ
Vehicle(s)
2019 GT Premium PP1 w/Magneride
It could happen again sooner than you think depending on who makes the rules that govern vehicles and their performance. Getting from 0-60 quickly is definitely not an efficient use of energy.
Porsche Taycan? Model S 100D? Model 3 Performance?
Regardless, I never stated that the current hp bubble wouldn’t burst.
 

Grintch

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2014
Threads
15
Messages
1,894
Reaction score
796
Location
Hunstville
Vehicle(s)
2015 GT PP
It could happen again sooner than you think depending on who makes the rules that govern vehicles and their performance. Getting from 0-60 quickly is definitely not an efficient use of energy.

Right this was driven by government regulation, not by consumer desires. Though the gas crisis did cause a somewhat sudden (but relatively short lived) shift to looking for MPG. If Obama's massive increase in the CAFE standard had gone through, we wouldn't have seen a GT500 or a 2018+ Mustang with a V8.

Maybe the crap cars of the '70's were made up for with free love and drugs?
 

Sponsored

Norm Peterson

corner barstool sitter
Joined
Jul 22, 2013
Threads
11
Messages
9,011
Reaction score
4,721
Location
On a corner barstool not too far from I-95
First Name
Norm
Vehicle(s)
'08 GT #85, '19 WRX
They were mean to the 1971 Boss 351! :crying::crying::crying: I love me some 351 Cleveland engine. Maybe that car wasn't fast to 60, but it was quick through the quarter mile (for the time).
I didn't see it that way. If anything, the car was a victim of the times. Eco, mpg, and insurance premium pressures.


Norm
 

Bikeman315

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2015
Threads
520
Messages
15,280
Reaction score
19,330
Location
Myrtle Beach, SC
First Name
Ira
Vehicle(s)
2019 Mustang GT/CS, 2021 Volvo XC60

rcengr

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2019
Threads
5
Messages
45
Reaction score
69
Location
Dayton, OH
First Name
Mark
Vehicle(s)
17 Grabber Blue EB Convertible, 2023 Colorado Z71
I had an 1989 5.0 LX and while it was fun to drive, I prefer my faster EB.

I also owned a 1967 390 GT. I was a little surprised at the poor 0-60 times for that car. But even with traction bars there was no way to get enough weight transfer to the back to hook up the stock tires.
 

Hack

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2014
Threads
83
Messages
12,311
Reaction score
7,480
Location
Minneapolis
Vehicle(s)
Mustang, Camaro
Boss 351 engine in 1971. There was a buildup and test done in 2009 where they tried to do a build very close to stock and dynoed it. Pretty good for the times. I think 0-60 was mostly limited by tires.

Quick summary:
Boss 351 pumped out 383 hp at 6,100 rpm and 391 ft. lb. of torque at 4,000 rpm. Torque production exceeded 350 ft. lb from 3,000 rpm (and likely even lower) to 5,700 rpm.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mump-1001-boss-351-block-buildup

A little off topic for this forum, but I think the Cleveland had a similar high winding feel to it like the modern Coyote.
 

Bikeman315

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2015
Threads
520
Messages
15,280
Reaction score
19,330
Location
Myrtle Beach, SC
First Name
Ira
Vehicle(s)
2019 Mustang GT/CS, 2021 Volvo XC60
But even with traction bars there was no way to get enough weight transfer to the back to hook up the stock tires.
Exactly. It was all about suspension and tires. These early muscle cars had a hell of a time hooking up. I would love to see the numbers with only a set of Cup 2 added.
Sponsored

 
 




Top