I'd love to see the glass roof return.......maybe for S650.
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Yes to this. My sister-in-law's father has a 13 with the glass roof. Such a cool car.
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If it has a Tremec, 525 HP and 450 Ib TQ, I'm in.
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BASTARDS!!No convertibles allowed......Mach 1 has always been a Sportroof/hardtop/coupe
Hahaha, yeah, I would imagine they'd follow the original design intent - but, you never know, if it shows up with electric motors, isn't it already off the rails!
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I could see that - and it could also explain why the torque figure is so high. I understand that if the Mach 1 engine has DI it could potentially have higher compression than the Voodoo did. My assumption if the Mach 1 was only ICE powered - in order to get to the sky high torque figure of 450 ft-lbs - it would probably need 13:1 compression or higher. At a minimum it would need higher compression than the Voodoo and current 5.0, I would think. Obviously it could be possible to get to higher torque with some different cam/cam timing scheme that leads to higher dynamic compression even with the static CR not changing, but that seems less likely to me.At the risk of sounding like a broken record (and being embarrassingly wrong) a 45hp bump is easy to do with electric motors. I'll go back to my room now.
Ideally in my world I would prefer to see all NA power and possibly requiring 91 octane and getting to the torque and HP figures with the gas engine on its own.
However this idea of having the electric power on board would give another route to get the extra ft-lbs. A relatively easy route from an engineering standpoint if you are restricted from increasing engine size.
I wouldn't want to buy the car - I wouldn't be interested at all in a hybrid performance Mustang. However it does make sense as a method to get to a torque/hp number without increasing displacement.
Edit: to me adding the electric motor makes the most sense for a straight line car like the original Mach, not so much for a track day car. Electric motors and batteries get hot on the track.
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Would it be wrong of me to be slightly disappointed if it were 525hp (+65hp) and 450 lb/ft (+30 lb/ft), assuming its a hybrid?
The Lincoln Aviator GT (hybrid) offers 494hp (+94hp) and 630 lb/ft (+215 lb/ft !!!!!!) over the ICE only 3.0 turbo.
I appreciate the Mustang hybrid system may be very different from the Aviator's, however.
The Lincoln Aviator GT (hybrid) offers 494hp (+94hp) and 630 lb/ft (+215 lb/ft !!!!!!) over the ICE only 3.0 turbo.
I appreciate the Mustang hybrid system may be very different from the Aviator's, however.
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Strangely this just cropped up on pistonheads today:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ge...d-hybrid-fiesta-delivers-155hp-177lb-ft/42551
If they can do this on the 1 litre 3 cylinder fiesta then that can bolt the same ISG on the mustang to deliver the same 50bhp boost
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ge...d-hybrid-fiesta-delivers-155hp-177lb-ft/42551
If they can do this on the 1 litre 3 cylinder fiesta then that can bolt the same ISG on the mustang to deliver the same 50bhp boost
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Yeah, isn't the assumed version of the Mustang where it uses very small motors that are tightly integrated into the transmission, maybe it's less powerful but offset by smaller packaging requirements?
I'd assume a full sized SUV like the aviator, has a ton of room for motors, coolers, etc.
IT'S GODDAM MAGIC.
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Not really "news"......but Ford Authority are on a roll with Mach 1 content. "Witnesses say the '21 Mach 1 will sound absolutely vicious"
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/w...4Ol_UKiLZCXzv5ks4xUFheCz_vqrqrWzMznn-f90Xn74c
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/w...4Ol_UKiLZCXzv5ks4xUFheCz_vqrqrWzMznn-f90Xn74c
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Vicious sounding exhaust makes me think very high compression ratio. I like it!!Not really "news"......but Ford Authority are on a roll with Mach 1 content. "Witnesses say the '21 Mach 1 will sound absolutely vicious"
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/w...4Ol_UKiLZCXzv5ks4xUFheCz_vqrqrWzMznn-f90Xn74c
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Ford has been on point with their stock exhaust lately. The stock GT without active is pretty nice as is the active exhaustNot really "news"......but Ford Authority are on a roll with Mach 1 content. "Witnesses say the '21 Mach 1 will sound absolutely vicious"
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/w...4Ol_UKiLZCXzv5ks4xUFheCz_vqrqrWzMznn-f90Xn74c
Then go listen to a stock Bullitt in track-mode as it bangs through the gears. It's downright magical.
It does not sound like a GT with Active in Track. With all the changes and the way they tuned it is so well done.
Now listen to a Bullitt with the midpipe replaced....'vicious' is one of the words I'd use to describe it.
Maybe they are using the same active setup with different resonator/midpipe or its removed like the GT350R.
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-ford-mustang-mach-1-confirmed-official-photos-details/
Speculation that Mach 1 will have 525 HP
original article
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/2...orque-numbers-potentially-revealed-exclusive/
Speculation that Mach 1 will have 525 HP
original article
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/2...orque-numbers-potentially-revealed-exclusive/
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Just so you know there are already two major threads on the Mach 1. You might want to repost on one of them.
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/21my-mach-1-spied-again.142473/page-4#post-2923029
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...l-v8-mustang-ever.142163/page-24#post-2923025
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My 330e has the e-motor in the transmission housing and it also replaces the torque converter
Interesting times indeed
Interesting times indeed
Yeah, isn't the assumed version of the Mustang where it uses very small motors that are tightly integrated into the transmission, maybe it's less powerful but offset by smaller packaging requirements?
I'd assume a full sized SUV like the aviator, has a ton of room for motors, coolers, etc.
IT'S GODDAM MAGIC.
That's all I got ...
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