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For some additional data, I'm at 26-13/16" fender to ground, and roughly 14" even fender to centerline of wheel. I'm on 18" wheels and 275/40 tires.
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I just measured from the of the wheel to the fender. I get 13 15/16. Here are some pictures. I got one of part of the spring compressed.
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I see "working rate" has been added to the descriptions. I don't remember that being there when I ordered last year, and received the version 2 fronts. Not a big deal as I like my springs, just something that I noticed reading through the site shopping for my IRS parts.
Based on the below, I do NOT have version 2. I have version 1, sorry for the confusion. :headbonk:

For some additional data, I'm at 26-13/16" fender to ground, and roughly 14" even fender to centerline of wheel. I'm on 18" wheels and 275/40 tires.
I just measured from the of the wheel to the fender. I get 13 15/16. Here are some pictures. I got one of part of the spring compressed.
I didn't think the check the spring visually initially, but checked just now. Mine looks nothing like that compressed. I must have version 1. I'll retire from this thread, sorry for the misinformation.
 
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This is what I was considering. Got the Steeda adjustables as a gift from the wife, was trying to figure out what springs to put on. Really interested what your thoughts are ☺
I'll give a mini review tomorrow or the next day. I have already done the back along with BMR diff bushing lockout, frpp toe link bearing and Steeda LCA bearings. I had planned on getting an alignment on Friday but I'm not so sure now. I can't say exactly where but I remember some saying the handling springs didn't settle much because they were so stiff. Now I'm hearing they settle quite a bit so should I wait a little longer for them to settle before the alignment?
 

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I didn't think the check the spring visually. Mine looks nothing like that compressed. I must have version 1. I'll retire from this thread, sorry for the misinformation.
I can't really tell from my picture if the middle of the spring is completely compressed or if there is still a tiny gap between them.

My main concern is that I'm getting the best performance possible. I don't want the suspension geometry to be messed up by too much of a drop. That's why I'm not sure if it should be so low. It's also imperative to have a good linear rate for the best steering response and consistency. Kelly says it's a linear working rate and I tend to believe him but I think the car could take a set a little quicker on turn in.
 
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I'll take measurements of the Steeda strut (not sure if you wanted this or just the gt350) and from the center of the wheel to the fender. I hope I am more fortunate with less drop as even the 1.2" drop was on the outer limits of what I was looking for. I am excited to feel the results.
 

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[MENTION=7599]Ryan1112[/MENTION] that front height looks about where it should be. Seems to be pretty close to the look of most SP083 users. Niz gap looks less, by a good margin to me. I'm curious as to why his is like it is. Hmmm
 

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[MENTION=7599]Ryan1112[/MENTION] that front height looks about where it should be. Seems to be pretty close to the look of most SP083 users. Niz gap looks less, by a good margin to me. I'm curious as to why his is like it is. Hmmm
Cool, thanks for looking at it and explaining all of this to us. I think I may just need some sway bars and maybe more negative camber for the car to have the turn in telepathy that I want. The gap that Niz has is a real mystery.
 

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I'll give a mini review tomorrow or the next day. I have already done the back along with BMR diff bushing lockout, frpp toe link bearing and Steeda LCA bearings. I had planned on getting an alignment on Friday but I'm not so sure now. I can't say exactly where but I remember some saying the handling springs didn't settle much because they were so stiff. Now I'm hearing they settle quite a bit so should I wait a little longer for them to settle before the alignment?
Get an alignment after 100 miles. You'll be fine.
 

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Cool, thanks for looking at it and explaining all of this to us. I think I may just need some sway bars and maybe more negative camber for the car to have the turn in telepathy that I want. The gap that Niz has is a real mystery.
Get tires with hard sidewalls - vast difference in this car.
 

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It didn't really take that long for mine to settle. Now that I think about it I did my first measurement immediately after I installed so I'm not the best example. I got an alignment a week after I installed mine and only maybe 50 miles. I double checked with toe plates after 100 miles and no change. Oh and tell them to give you -.10 total toe up front, .30 total rear, and 1.3 camber rear. I'll make the steering come alive.
 

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Not sure if this helps:
Stock non-PP center of wheel to lower fender:
  • Front: 15 5/16"
  • Rear: 15 1/16"

Attached shock pic of Steeda adjustable shock. 8 13/16" if I measured the same as you.
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All of them have the same seat. Steeda and 350 have longer shaft.
 

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Not sure if this helps:
Stock non-PP center of wheel to lower fender:
  • Front: 15 5/16"
  • Rear: 15 1/16"

Attached shock pic of Steeda adjustable shock. 8 13/16" if I measured the same as you.
That'd be an approx lowering of 1 3/8" for Ryan, though he may have started a little lower or higher.
 

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I do not recommend these springs at all. The drop is very very aggressive low around 1.6-1.7 and the rate is way too soft. No where near 300 maybe 180-200. They do not feel like linear springs at all. My vogtlands that are 220lbs are stiffer than the handling.

The car drives softer than factory pp gt. I am also running gt350 struts. Lol what a joke I tell you.
Niz, what happened eventually. I was planning to get the BMR Handling myself but then saw your thread :shrug:
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