Best U.S. President of All Time?

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  1. LSchicago

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    I love the concept of a non political person in office. I personally think Trump was a very poor choice, just like Hillary. We literally had 2 of the worst possible candidates! I can't wait until we replace him (in 2 or 6 years).
     
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    #122 Condor1970, Oct 9, 2018
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    If you really want to talk about competence and basic comprehension, the fact that I just explained to you actual facts, and you refuse to acknowledge it, tells me more about you than Trump.

    Fact: Donald Trump has a measured IQ just over 150.
    Fact: Trump has a very hard time talking in front of crowds, which is very common of high IQ people. You obviously didn't read the part about Einstein. He was a brilliant genius, yet he literally could not tie his own shoes. He had to have his wife do it every morning for him, and she constantly had to write little notes for him to remember simple things, like when to eat lunch. This kind of seeming bumbling behavior is VERY common among high IQ people. It is also very common for high IQ people to have difficulty speaking in front of crowds.

    The fact that you refuse to acknowledge reality, tells everyone more of your political anger and discontent for him, than simply accepting reality. People who hate Trump, simply want to hate him for various social/political reasons, yet have no stake in the game when it comes to the reality of his intelligence or capability. So, they just keep using sad insults with nothing to back it up, in order to feel better about themselves and their political ideas.

    On another note: Clinton had a very high IQ. Also close to 150 if I recall. He was the real wonder of the Democrat party.

    Obama actually has one of the lower measured IQ's of all the Presidents. I believe he's around the middle, being about 115-120 at best. Proof of this, is his terrible performance in school. To this day he REFUSES to release his performance marks at University. The only reason he made it through was his attachment to certain leftist professors who really liked him. Obama had GOBS of personal swagger, and most people really like his personality. He is a good orator when given a speech to read, but very incapable of speaking off the cuff with his own thoughts, as most of his Presidency proved. You can be great at reading a prepared speech, or use prepared remarks during a debate, but he was terrible at any other basic academic skills, like running an economy, global strategic war fighting ability, or even real future Geo-political needs. The future will undoubtedly prove Obama's only real stake in the game of Presidents was the fact he was the first African-American, and was at least smart enough to tell the SEALS to go in and kill Bin Laden, which any idiot would be capable of...that's about it.

    So far, Trumps performance has been above average. He definitely knows how to deal with our economy. Some of the basic regulations and tax laws he has managed to get passed is proving to be a real God send for our manufacturing. The fact that steel companies are now building 7 new steel mills through the Midwest and south is proof. Gary Indiana is getting 3 new steel mills built, and thousands of jobs for their citizens. Thank Heavens for that. Those poor people have suffered under a socialist umbrella of handouts long enough. They need jobs to help rebuild their communities and families. The fact that some of our best but forgotten citizens are finally getting back to work is more than enough proof of better than average performance as a leader.
     
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    That may hurt the people in the USA, but is actually a benefit to 99.999% of the population in Canada. Selling a little less to the USA means that they want us in Canada to buy, so now we have more supply for ourselves. And in your example of the home building price down there going up, again this is good news for us, it is only bad for Americans. Our big lumber buyers are NOT the USA. Our local building supply stores will be able to get in product easier hopefully, and maybe a percent or two less as our own supply goes up. Its a win for us, and by the way the loud yelling and screaming anti Trump, left wing, communist thinking people up here, are the minority. They just yell and scream like lunatics so yes you hear more from them. The others do not need to protest or freak out like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum.
    Also as a business man myself I understand Trump, because he thinks like a business person. If i was sitting around doing nothing on welfare I would probably be anti Trump because of my mindset to let the government take care of me.
     
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    Australian politicians are pretty dumbass, but Trump has a room temperature IQ. Sadly, the US is an international laughing stock.

    This is my favorite quote of his:


     
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    Yep. Typical response from someone with a very high IQ, but no oral linguistic ability when trying to express themselves on the spot. I've seen this kind of thing a million times.
     
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    You really spend that much time watching videos of idiots?
     
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    LOL. No, but I spent an awful lot of time among people with IQ's far above 140. Believe me, that kind of thing is an hourly occurrence.
     
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    #128 jtmat, Oct 9, 2018
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    What percentage of soft lumber goes where?

    Far as this being a "win" for you, let us know how that works out for you....

    What? That is exactly what a freaking out 2-year-old having a temper tantrum would type.

    So much wrong there.... majority are trying to work themselves off welfare/assistance programs. No one wants to be poor... you are taken advantage of, it is embarrassing, and it is no fun. Being poor sucks.

    I'm not going to look up numbers, but you should... you don't understand who is on assistance programs in America. It is not who you think it is... look at raw numbers.

    You don't know what you are talking about... your entire post sounds crazy. I hope you are good in business because wow... just wow. You are from Canada.... I get it... it would be like me trying to have an intelligent conversation about your country but only listening to certain people or limited experiences. It would not work very well.

    Having 100 youtube subscribers is not a business, btw.
     
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    Well I've heard it all now. The "he's so smart he sounds stupid" defense.

    Nice one Centurian, like it, like it.
     
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    I know it actually sounds quite unbelievable on the surface. Until you actually spend time with very intelligent people. Then, you get it.

    Seriously. Spend an afternoon at Google HQ, where all the top programmers write code. Most of them couldn't properly brush their own teeth. It's ridiculous..
     
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    Public speaking skills has nothing to do with the IQ of a person.
     
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    Ahahahha....keep trying boys. It's clear the guy is clueless.

    Latest example:

    Fact: Today he tweeted about how the "paid" Kavanaugh protestors were now complaining because they hadn't received their checks.

    Fact: Thirty minutes earlier, writer Asra Nomani was on Fox & Friends where she sarcastically said “People have sent me lots of messages that they’re waiting for their check.”
     
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    And?
     
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    Ahahha......thirsty?

    Want some more Kool-Aid?
     
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    I don't know what Jimmy is getting at either.

    Normally I "get" his posts.

    Not sure if something has him worked up more than normal or we (I?) missed something completely.
     
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    You seriously believe in Manifest Destiny? A yes or no will be fine.

    Canada has independently defended itself... against the US. We're not a military superpower and don't intend on becoming one. The relationship between the two countries has been mutually beneficial but Trump has framed it as though Canada has a large upper hand. I don't see it.

    By not caring how you present yourself on the world stage will mean you have less influence on it.
     
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    Let me help you to understand. It's relatively simple if you think about it. Try to follow along.

    IQ tests are typically administered with questions in written form that the person being examined will answer by thinking and then writing. Yes, the people who came up with IQ tests seem to have a somewhat poor understanding of the complexity of human intelligence. There are no mechanical puzzles where the person being examined has to disassemble/repair/reassemble something. There are no verbal puzzles where the person has to make a snappy comeback in a split second. There are no ethical or emotional intelligence tests either. Obviously being witty verbally and being able to fix almost anything require high brain power, but those are among the many things that are completely ignored by a traditional IQ test.

    Most people in the world are aware that many of these areas of intellect can be independent of each other. For instance, someone can be a genius with hands on work or with speaking but have difficulty reading and understanding the written word. So - after this explanation - do you start to understand what is being explained to you?

    If someone were really trying to measure human intelligence accurately and thoroughly, they would obviously not try to use a single number. The way to do it is to form a number of categories and score each one. IMO I would do poorly in any measure of spoken intelligence, but using the written word I think I do ok - and a well-designed IQ test should really differentiate between the two.

    But we don't live in that world. So right now when you see an IQ score for someone it should be obvious to you what things are measured and what things are not.

    Does that help you to understand?
     
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    #138 Jimmy G, Oct 11, 2018
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    What I understand is this. You’re bending over backwards to blow smoke up the ass of the dumbest, most racist, and dishonest President that the US has ever had.
     
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    #140 Condor1970, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:50 PM
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    You obviously don't seem to understand history very well. You are obviously referring to the War of 1812. The United states did not attack Canada because we really wanted Canada. Canada didn't even EXIST as a nation until 1867. It was a loosely governed chunk of land. We weren't fighting Canadians. We were fighting the British, because they were abducting American merchant sailors, and forcing them to serve on British ships. That's called kidnapping and slave labor. Not gonna happen.

    Canada has the worlds largest shoreline, and only 7,000 sailors to defend it. It has the worlds 2nd largest land mass, and only 70,000 soldiers to defend it. Canada exists because of Alaska as a buffer, the USA to the south, and US Navy to patrol the ocean. Canada is completely surrounded by the US defense umbrella. The entire Canadian military with exception to a few Frigates and Army tanks is supplied at a discount by the United States in order to try and defend the north. Millions of Canadians come down every year for the winter, so what's the point of a border that only makes commerce more difficult? Almost 50% of all major manufacturing and corporate infrastructure is owned by the United States. So, what do the Canadians do? They lease and farm out the north shore to the Chinese communists and Russians to mine rare earth minerals and oil , only to sell it all back to us at a premium. Your government is chock full of complete morons, who are incompetent beyond anything I've ever seen in history. They're so dang worried about LGBT rights, and a failing healthcare system, all while they're selling off their resources to potential enemies and flooding their country with foreigners who are not assimilating. Your literally giving away your country and eliminating your own culture. Add to that, your gov't feeds terrorists, all while slapping your own veterans in the face with no concern for their well being. The US ceratinly isn't perfect when it comes to Veterans benefits, but we at least do our best. The way the Canadian government treats their veterans, is an absolute disgrace. To put it simply...

    A nation that cannot defend itself is not a sovereign nation. It hasn't been for about 70 years.The only reason Canada still exists, is because of the United States. Your entire sense of sovereignty is a complete facade, and you don't even realize it. You've all been living a complete lie for decades, and it's time you all wake up and realize that. With all the garbage going on up there, you don't deserve your own country.
     
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