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Best plan of attack for mods for track events?

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Thank you HB and everyone else for the replies! I got this car because it was my affordable dream car and knew it was track ready without pretty much anything needing to be done to it. To that end, it’s been fantastic and lived up to expectations. Seat time and safety are top priority for me and I’d like to get some more instructor time for sure. Some thoughts:

1: dumb question but how do I know when I’m at the true limit of my tires? I find the car under steering around some of the tighter corners at the firm or for example in turns 3 and 4 at Daytona. This could be me… or could be the tire. Im guessing having some instructor time would be able to tell me (I don’t know what I don’t know).
2: this makes sense.
3: the brakes on this car are fantastic and I haven’t had them fade on me yet and I feel like I’ve really laid into them coming into the bus stop and turn 1 at Daytona.
4: no plans on power adders to this car. Engine is staying NA, don’t want a tune, and I feel like more power would just upset the balance this car already has.
5: also makes sense.

As a counter point- I understand not dropping money on specific parts until I feel something is becoming a limiting factor to me as a driver or if something breaks. But at the same time wouldn’t the above mods (350R front splitter, stickier tire, square setup, FP linear spring) just make the car more fun, predictable and competent on the track even if im not at the limit of the car as it sits? Other than the wheels and tires those mods aren’t really that expensive in the grand scheme of things And seem like pretty basic improvements? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Looks like your main issue is a push. What tire pressures are you running, are you putting any negative camber in the car? Understanding the setup of the car goes along with everything HB has said.
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Looks like your main issue is a push. What tire pressures are you running, are you putting any negative camber in the car? Understanding the setup of the car goes along with everything HB has said.
30-32psi on tires. Not sure about the camber but I think it’s stock geometry from factory.
 

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What I would add is this:

  • Fully agree with paying for seat time and instruction rather than trying to buy faster lap times
  • I would suggest mods for maintainability, reliability, and safety. For example:
    • Personal Safety: harness (I use Schroth Quick Fit with no rollbar), helmet, HANS, fireproof gloves/shoes/suit etc., fire extinguisher. Roll bar and seats are a bigger commitment.
    • Vehicle Safety: stainless brake lines, good brake fluid, maybe brake cooling
    • Maintainability: Caliperfexion bolts, jacking rails, camber plates + good alignment, then square/rotatable wheel/tire combo to even out tire wear is a bigger commitment.
    • Reliability: keep fluids changed regularly, air/oil separator
 

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30-32psi on tires. Not sure about the camber but I think it’s stock geometry from factory.
Camber adjustment should help with the push. Try getting tire pressures when hot. And, IMHO 30-32 is a large margin. Get a presure gauge that reads in 10ths of a PSI
 

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30-32psi on tires. Not sure about the camber but I think it’s stock geometry from factory.
Way too much air pressure for Daytona.

Where do you live in Florida. I was Central Florida for years, now in the Panhandle and track Daytona and The Firm often
 

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What I would add is this:

  • Fully agree with paying for seat time and instruction rather than trying to buy faster lap times
  • I would suggest mods for maintainability, reliability, and safety. For example:
    • Personal Safety: harness (I use Schroth Quick Fit with no rollbar), helmet, HANS, fireproof gloves/shoes/suit etc., fire extinguisher. Roll bar and seats are a bigger commitment.
    • Vehicle Safety: stainless brake lines, good brake fluid, maybe brake cooling
    • Maintainability: Caliperfexion bolts, jacking rails, camber plates + good alignment, then square/rotatable wheel/tire combo to even out tire wear is a bigger commitment.
    • Reliability: keep fluids changed regularly, air/oil separator
Schroth quick fit?!? This exists?! I’ve got the standard heated and cooled seats. On tight tracks like the firm I’m having to brace myself with my knees and elbows to keep me from sliding around the seat constantly. Would these things be able to strap me in and keep me secure in the existing seat? I thought I needed to get some kind of recaro seat to keep me in place.
 

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Schroth quick fit?!? This exists?! I’ve got the standard heated and cooled seats. On tight tracks like the firm I’m having to brace myself with my knees and elbows to keep me from sliding around the seat constantly. Would these things be able to strap me in and keep me secure in the existing seat? I thought I needed to get some kind of recaro seat to keep me in place.
I have the heated and cooled seat and use these. I've also added a bolt-in rear bracket (under the rear seat bolts) and anti-sub belts to make it a 6-point harness. I just run it between the seat back and base and sit on it.
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