Beginning to think I don't know how to drive a mustang...

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I think one reason is that most of those Mustangs had live rear axle suspension systems. Much harder to keep under control over individual rear suspension.
That's not always the case. Over bumpy pavement, yes. But there are times when having the two rear wheels rigidly tied together can make the car more predictable because the two wheels are at least on the same page. Either way, stick-axle or IRS, it does have to be a well thought-out arrangement.


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I believe a good driver is somebody who knows the car's and their own limitations and drives accordingly, regardless of age. I drove in a number of forms of competition when I was young that I could not do any more. Competition motorcycle training and many years of cycle riding really hones your driving instincts. But, I'm pushing 77 and my response time is nothing like it used to be. If I want an exciting ride, it will be as a passenger.
I bet you'd still give a good account of yourself at HPDE.


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Curious thing in this movie with convertible


Up to 4th gear he's losing traction tho, so it means that you should be able to do it
 

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That's not always the case. Over bumpy pavement, yes. But there are times when having the two rear wheels rigidly tied together can make the car more predictable because the two wheels are at least on the same page. Either way, stick-axle or IRS, it does have to be a well thought-out arrangement.


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Thank you Norm. I completely forgot that every road in the U.S. are well maintained with zero bumps, making live beams advantageous in all those wrecks./s
 

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I have a strong suspicion that elderly people who accidentally mix up the pedals and drive through a store front were never any good at driving to begin with. They may have been OK-ish back then (but only just), and then got gradually worse as time went by. I doubt that someone who's a reasonably good driver in his thirties will be a disaster in his seventies.
I have never understood this phenomenon. Are these people mixing up the gas and the brake pedals also sticking a fork in their nose when they are eating? Oops wrong hole.
 

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I have never understood this phenomenon. Are these people mixing up the gas and the brake pedals also sticking a fork in their nose when they are eating? Oops wrong hole.
Happened to my buddy once. He slammed the brake thinking he was driving a manual for a second. Luckily, nothing bad happened, but shit happens.
 

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Happened to my buddy once. He slammed the brake thinking he was driving a manual for a second. Luckily, nothing bad happened, but shit happens.
Stop hanging out with those geezers!
 

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I have never understood this phenomenon. Are these people mixing up the gas and the brake pedals also sticking a fork in their nose when they are eating? Oops wrong hole.
I don't get it either. But here's something even more puzzling. This is how the exit ramps of German and Austrian motorways look when seen from the wrong end:

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You'd think that no living being in the whole universe would be stupid enough not to comprehend the meaning of those signs. And yet there are frequent reports in the news of people who drive on motorways the wrong way. How is this possible? :crazy:
 

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I don't get it either. But here's something even more puzzling. This is how the exit ramps of German and Austrian motorways look when seen from the wrong end:

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You'd think that no living being in the whole universe would be stupid enough not to comprehend the meaning of those signs. And yet there are frequent reports in the news of people who drive on motorways the wrong way. How is this possible? :crazy:
Probably tourists from the UK who are lost and forgot they drive on the wrong side of the road? Haha.
 

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Nope, we mange to drive down the wrong side over here too ... :cwl:

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Thank you Norm. I completely forgot that every road in the U.S. are well maintained with zero bumps, making live beams advantageous in all those wrecks./s
There's more to 'predictability' than coping with rough patches in the pavement.

Trust me, unexpected changes in rear camber and/or rear toe will get your attention in an IRS car if they amount to much. A classic situation would involve lift-throttle oversteer in a turn where you'd have those suspension geometric effects working against you as well as the forward load transfer lightening the rear tire load. It's perhaps easier to understand this once you've been there and realized what had been going on back there.


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I have never understood this phenomenon. Are these people mixing up the gas and the brake pedals also sticking a fork in their nose when they are eating? Oops wrong hole.
Possible medical issues aside, I would guess that those people might get flustered easily, or may have poor lower body mobility. It's even possible they accidentally selected the wrong direction and couldn't cope with the unexpected situation. Chances are, they never looked at driving as anything other than what you had to do to get themselves from point A to point B.


I can understand the occasional 'brake instead of clutch' happening when you haven't driven a car with automatic transmission for an extended length of time and you decide to manually command an AT upshift during "spirited acceleration". Been there (exactly once).


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I see my comment about older people mixing up pedals has quiet the following LOL my point simple was there comes a time when someone should not be behind a wheel any more. But I see lots of people out driving that shouldn't cause no one ever wants to admit they shouldn't be doing something.
 
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I see my comment about older people mixing up pedals has quiet the following LOL my point simple was there comes a time when someone should not be behind a wheel any more. But I see lots of people put driving that shouldn't cause no one ever wants to admit they shouldn't be doing something.
It's not my fault! The car was in park and jumped into gear and accelerated all by itself while I was texting! :curse:
 

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