Rhyanski
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I really enjoyed the 6speed manual Tremec when I tested it and I really got in love with the Mach 1 stick during testing. But during testing I couldn't step on it and have revs beyond 4000 point - it was just a lazy drive, lol. Now, owning the M1 manual and past the break-in period, I have started pressing the throttle and feel like a complete rookie at times, as if I have never driven a manual.
I sold my last manual car back in 2015 and drove automatic ever since. Reason for buying the manual is the pleasure of really having to drive the car, so I'm not sorry for my choice, but the reasons for starting this thread are the following:
1. I never had a manual with rev matching before.
2. I never had a car with such a powerful engine and solid transmission. My automatic transmission car is 200hp and even in sport mode does not have the responsiveness of the Mach 1.
3. I am used to rev match the old way - add some throttle while sliding the clutch either on upshifts or downshifts.
Now, with the M1 auto rev matching option, the downshift is a true pleasure - I find it kind of difficult for me to "heel and toe" as I have size 12 feet, and either I press too hard on the brake or too hard on the throttle. So the downshift rev match is really awesome feature for me.
On the upshifts, when cruising and driving econmoically, I upshift in the range between 2500 and 3000 rpm and have no issues.
The issue I have is with the upshifting on higher rpms above 5000rpms. There's an older thread I've discovered on the forum that says the rev match also works on the upshifts, and I see it really does, however on higher RPMs maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Now what bothers me is that when I start slipping the clutch on higher RPM, i also start pressing the throttle to get the revs around 3000 - 3500 rpms, but then when the clutch bites, it seems the 3500 is too little and the car starts to jerk. If I try to rev more - approximately to 5000 there's no jerking, but the engine revs too much maybe.
As far as I understand, the automatic rev match will try to deal with that, so do I really need to add throttle at all until I fully lock the clutch? It seems when I press the throttle while still slipping the clutch, the Auto rev matching "disengages" and I need to add more throttle, but at that time I am already late. Am I wrong?
How do you upshift on revs above 5000rpms - do you still slip the clutch or just release the clutch fast. I think it still needs to be slept at least for the sake of preventing damage to the gearbox.
And, while on the clutch slipping topic, I saw this custom Steeda spring for the clutch that adds more control on the clutch release. I've figured out that keeping my heel on the floor and trying to slip the clutch with the toes only is not precise, especially if you do a lot of shifting like in slow traffic, as the stock spring is much stronger and the ankle does not have that much power to control precisely the release. I've found out that if I use my whole leg to operate the clutch, raising it from the floor, provides more control and I get really consistent release of the clutch and I wouldn't replace the 'harder' stock spring.
Share your observations on the Auto Rev Matching, do I have to change how I operate the throttle?
I sold my last manual car back in 2015 and drove automatic ever since. Reason for buying the manual is the pleasure of really having to drive the car, so I'm not sorry for my choice, but the reasons for starting this thread are the following:
1. I never had a manual with rev matching before.
2. I never had a car with such a powerful engine and solid transmission. My automatic transmission car is 200hp and even in sport mode does not have the responsiveness of the Mach 1.
3. I am used to rev match the old way - add some throttle while sliding the clutch either on upshifts or downshifts.
Now, with the M1 auto rev matching option, the downshift is a true pleasure - I find it kind of difficult for me to "heel and toe" as I have size 12 feet, and either I press too hard on the brake or too hard on the throttle. So the downshift rev match is really awesome feature for me.
On the upshifts, when cruising and driving econmoically, I upshift in the range between 2500 and 3000 rpm and have no issues.
The issue I have is with the upshifting on higher rpms above 5000rpms. There's an older thread I've discovered on the forum that says the rev match also works on the upshifts, and I see it really does, however on higher RPMs maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Now what bothers me is that when I start slipping the clutch on higher RPM, i also start pressing the throttle to get the revs around 3000 - 3500 rpms, but then when the clutch bites, it seems the 3500 is too little and the car starts to jerk. If I try to rev more - approximately to 5000 there's no jerking, but the engine revs too much maybe.
As far as I understand, the automatic rev match will try to deal with that, so do I really need to add throttle at all until I fully lock the clutch? It seems when I press the throttle while still slipping the clutch, the Auto rev matching "disengages" and I need to add more throttle, but at that time I am already late. Am I wrong?
How do you upshift on revs above 5000rpms - do you still slip the clutch or just release the clutch fast. I think it still needs to be slept at least for the sake of preventing damage to the gearbox.
And, while on the clutch slipping topic, I saw this custom Steeda spring for the clutch that adds more control on the clutch release. I've figured out that keeping my heel on the floor and trying to slip the clutch with the toes only is not precise, especially if you do a lot of shifting like in slow traffic, as the stock spring is much stronger and the ankle does not have that much power to control precisely the release. I've found out that if I use my whole leg to operate the clutch, raising it from the floor, provides more control and I get really consistent release of the clutch and I wouldn't replace the 'harder' stock spring.
Share your observations on the Auto Rev Matching, do I have to change how I operate the throttle?
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