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Are there any struts available that are close to Magneride?

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None of the shock manufacturerscome close to Magneride. That's why most supercars license the patent from GM. Of course they never adverstise them as such on their multi hundred thousand dollar cars.

Have them on my C7 Corvette Z06 and Shelby GT350. Prefer never to buy a car without them as they are a fantastic devlopment.
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None of the shock manufacturerscome close to Magneride. That's why most supercars license the patent from GM. Of course they never adverstise them as such on their multi hundred thousand dollar cars.
How about no. Magneride isn't only thing out there (and it's not GM anymore btw) - there's DSSV from Multimatic (that ironically GM installs on ZL1/LE and Colorado ZR2 - and in the past on the Z/28 and Ford on the GT4 Mustang), Tractive in Netherlands makes similarly adjustable coilovers (that DSC Sport sells as a package with DSC controller for Mustang). They're just expensive.
 

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How about no. Magneride isn't only thing out there (and it's not GM anymore btw) - there's DSSV from Multimatic (that ironically GM installs on ZL1/LE and Colorado ZR2 - and in the past on the Z/28 and Ford on the GT4 Mustang), Tractive in Netherlands makes similarly adjustable coilovers (that DSC Sport sells as a package with DSC controller for Mustang). They're just expensive.
How about no. Magneride isn't only thing out there (and it's not GM anymore btw) - there's DSSV from Multimatic (that ironically GM installs on ZL1/LE and Colorado ZR2 - and in the past on the Z/28 and Ford on the GT4 Mustang), Tractive in Netherlands makes similarly adjustable coilovers (that DSC Sport sells as a package with DSC controller for Mustang). They're just expensive.
The GT4 Mustang is a race car, not a street car. Street verses factory built pure race car components are not comparable. DSSV is designed for race cars used on a "smooth" track, as opposed to being used on streets, many of which are broken up with potholed surfaces. A DSC controller is still best used either on very smooth roads/race tracks. Fixed adjustability, i.e. mechanical, reacts quite different than a system that can react instantaneously (Magneride).
Therefore, use on race tracks or very smooth roads allows non-Magneride systems to work very well, just not as well as Magneride does on any all street vehicle irrespective of whether it is high performance or not. It isn't used on lower price street vehicles simply because of its inherent cost.
 

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The GT4 Mustang is a race car, not a street car. Street verses factory built pure race car components are not comparable. DSSV is designed for race cars used on a "smooth" track, as opposed to being used on streets, many of which are broken up with potholed surfaces. A DSC controller is still best used either on very smooth roads/race tracks. Fixed adjustability, i.e. mechanical, reacts quite different than a system that can react instantaneously (Magneride).
Therefore, use on race tracks or very smooth roads allows non-Magneride systems to work very well, just not as well as Magneride does on any all street vehicle irrespective of whether it is high performance or not. It isn't used on lower price street vehicles simply because of its inherent cost.
All the cars I've listed except GT4 are street cars. Colorado ZR2 is ~$40 and is basically an off road targeted version of the truck. Smooth track ? LOL . So how about no again ?

I happen have DSC controller, on a street car ironically controlling Magride dampers. It's just a programmable controller which can be programmed any way you want.

DSSV and Tractive are very much adjustable, just use different mechanism to do it than magnetorheological fluid.

Your statements simply aren't true even though you try to sound knowledgeable.
 

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It isn't used on lower price street vehicles simply because of its inherent cost.
A set of dampers retails for $1600 and an aftermarket controller is $1600. And yet Ford sells $3000 for about $1400, so OEM quantity discounts are rather significant. There really is no reason not to have adaptive damping systems on pretty much any car north of 30K.
 

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There’s nothing you can do other than Sell the car and get a mag ride car. The difference is night and day.

You can definitely beat it at the track, but nothing so easily shifts from Cadillac on the highway to fairly impressive motion control when driven in anger.
 

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Magneride does little to nothing about ride quality, that's 90% tires and their condition.
Yes, tires are important to ride, but the rest of this post is nonsense. Dampers are, of course, extremely important.

The fact is, it's just about impossible to make a passive damper act like an MR damper.
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