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You don’t need to spend $5000 to learn how to control car. You can be done for a lot less but joining BMW, Porsche and other drivers education events. I instruct for them so I know a little about it ....
I’m definitely not the expert you are but I did enjoy a couple of days at Bob Bondurant’s driving school. Helped me out tremendously and was a hoot to boot.
Didn’t Porsche & BMW include driving school with the sale of some of their models?
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You don’t need to spend $5000 to learn how to control car. You can be done for a lot less but joining BMW, Porsche and other drivers education events. I instruct for them so I know a little about it ....
I’m definitely not the expert you are but I did enjoy a couple of days at Bob Bondurant’s driving school. Helped me out tremendously and was a hoot to boot.
Didn’t Porsche & BMW include driving school with the sale of some of their models?
 
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I’m definitely not the expert you are but I did enjoy a couple of days at Bob Bondurant’s driving school. Helped me out tremendously and was a hoot to boot.
Didn’t Porsche & BMW include driving school with the sale of some of their models?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for driving education for anyone was has a sports car/high HP car.
I’ve done it all, Skip Barber racing school and series, what the best bang for the bucks is a driving education program as those provided by the Porsche, BMW, or CHIN motor sports. $400 per day and you are provided with an instructor in the car with you the whole day.
 

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Skip charges 2k for 1 day & almost 5k for three days
Plus your expenses.
But who knows why the R is up in price
My point with the photo was that 2-5 k is cheaper than a totaled car with zero insurance coverage
 

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GT350 Track attack was on the order of a ~$1800 value but it was not listed as a taxable value added. You'd paid for day 2 but only if you wanted it and probably most do. To slap a $5K taxable presumption that everyone who buys an R or a 500 can & will go is a pretty heavy handed way to push it. After being taxed on it, airfare, lodging, and probably a car rental that's a hefty bill for those who do have opted in and a complete screw job for those who couldn't. As for cutting GT350 buyers out starting with MY2020 well that's a damned shame given all the track driving very specific improvements that were added specifically for us MY2019 (and later) GT350 buyers. So I guess if I go and this time take my brother-in law, who let me be his guest in July, then it will be a wrap up on what had been a great thing. Maybe being forced out of UMC to head east may have simply driven the costs of this sky high. Such a shame that its turning even more elitist (one would think an R buyer is already track experienced or is going to get to that point without Ford's tutorage).

Paul, where is your practice? When are you buying my Solea for each of your operatories? <shameless self promo by a proud engineer....but I digress>
 

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So, the "most track capable ..." car is re-freshed in '19, FP engineers and Billy Johnson go on record applauding a combined FP team effort making car much MORE track capable. Then this much improved track worthy beast is NO LONGER invited to participate in FP Track Attack?? Disgusting, utterly shameful!!
 

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I was invited, but i lose my spot if I don't go within a year after buying the car. I called literally the day after buying the car and got on the waiting list. COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
 
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Greg and Mmakam would you care to elaborate ?
 

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Greg and Mmakam would you care to elaborate ?
I am eligible for Track Attack as a 2019 owner, BUT there are no spots open for the next year or so. So they are overallocating spots. I am on the waitlist so the only way i get in if there are enough cancellations. If i don't get in within the year I lose my spot completely.
 

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Greg and Mmakam would you care to elaborate ?
My comment is in regard to post #9.....
Which states that FP Track Attack is no longer incl. in pkg. 900A, the GT350.
Owners of a new 2020 GT350 will not be eligible for this event according to the document OP shared...only GT350R and GT500 owners.
 

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My comment is in regard to post #9.....
Which states that FP Track Attack is no longer incl. in pkg. 900A, the GT350.
Owners of a new 2020 GT350 will not be eligible for this event according to the document OP shared...only GT350R and GT500 owners.
I'm sure it's just a numbers thing. they can't fit all the GT500 and GT350 owners. Heck, they don't seem to be able to fit just the GT350 owners that want to go at this point.
 

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I'm sure it's just a numbers thing. they can't fit all the GT500 and GT350 owners. Heck, they don't seem to be able to fit just the GT350 owners that want to go at this point.
They should let you roll over your spot to the next year if they don't have a spot for you. That's really bullshit. It was one of the reasons that definitely gave me some excitement about purchasing new vs used.
 

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I am eligible for Track Attack as a 2019 owner, BUT there are no spots open for the next year or so. So they are overallocating spots. I am on the waitlist so the only way i get in if there are enough cancellations. If i don't get in within the year I lose my spot completely.
This was extremely frustrating for me when I bought by car bc it was sold out and they weren't going to have an offering again for a year after. I started checking their site daily and calling occasionally, because they were in discussions about adding more dates. Hopefully they add more dates and you have the same luck...just keep a close eye on it.
 

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I just read the changes. This is a copy and paste from the article.

“Enhancing handling and steering responsiveness, Shelby GT350R refinements for 2020 include redesigned front suspension geometry with a redesigned high-trail steering knuckle leveraged from the all-new Shelby GT500. To elevate driver confidence and steering precision, a new steering rack and recalibrated electric power steering control is also added.”

There’s also new color choices.

5K seems like a lot to ask for these minor upgrades.

I was hoping for more. Was hoping the new digital dash was going to be one of the upgrades.
 

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This was extremely frustrating for me when I bought by car bc it was sold out and they weren't going to have an offering again for a year after. I started checking their site daily and calling occasionally, because they were in discussions about adding more dates. Hopefully they add more dates and you have the same luck...just keep a close eye on it.
End of day 2 we asked them about this kind of stuff - they said they are maxed out in terms of seats and days in the year (that was based on Utah weather which they were pushing to limits in the fall).
They would have to 2x the school in 2 locations because right now the 15% participation is capacity limited not driver interest limited....and if they increase the # of drivers per session the quality would certainly suffer. As is many of us wanted more instructor time than was possible (any time with 1 on 1 instruction my skills sharpened considerably).

This is like any good thing - as soon as it catches on its usually done or made expensive enough to match how exclusive it is.
 
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