Anybody seen the LA news today?

[Tomster]

Go ahead, have a look.

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[TrackMustang]

You’re gonna have to do a bit more explaining than that… for example, Los Angeles or Louisiana?

 

[gone_n_60]

this???

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CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT
California Unveils Proposal To Ban New Gasoline-Fueled Cars
By Rachel Becker | CalMatters

 

[gone_n_60]

and more so ... Under the new proposed mandate, 35% of new cars, SUVs and small pickups sold in the state will need to be zero-emission starting in 2026, increasing to 68% in 2030 and 100% in 2035. Of those, 20% could be plug-in hybrids.

later it says...

One of the biggest roadblocks could be the lack of charging stations for electric cars. Nearly 1.2 million chargers will be needed for the 8 million zero-emission vehicles expected in California by 2030, according to a state report. Right now, there are only about 70,000 with another 123,000 on the way, falling far short.

Another obstacle is the cost of the vehicles. “The cost to manufacturers will be high per vehicle in the early years, but significantly decrease over time by 2035,” the air board’s staff report says.


Hey Newsom need to borrow a sledge hammer to get that square peg into the round hole?

 

[Tomster]

You’re gonna have to do a bit more explaining than that… for example, Los Angeles or Louisiana?

Los Angeles.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Bless those poor souls when the first major storm and floods come through and short circuit their charging stations OR when their power grids are overloaded and start flickering off....

They'll be back to Bedrock peddling their useless EV's...

 

[GTFORMULA]

Cali. The land of fruits and nuts. It's a shame somewhere with such great weather and nature is run the way it is.

 

[gone_n_60]

Bless those poor souls when the first major storm and floods come through and short circuit their charging stations OR when their power grids are overloaded and start flickering off....

They'll be back to Bedrock peddling their useless EV's...

Flinstones..we're the Flintstones... la la land!
Hey PG&E was already bankrupt.

" PG&E will exit bankruptcy with nearly $39 billion in debt, nearly twice its prebankruptcy debt load. That's likely to restrict its ability to access debt markets at favorable terms to fund capital investments and force the utility to raise rates to cover its capital needs."

 

[glockholiday]

So many think it's political why some aren't ready for the electric vehicle push but it's actually because the world isn't ready for it yet. The infrastructure needs to be in place to support them before they remove the current sources of fueling vehicles. Make before break, it's simple.

 

[BabyDoc1012]

No one is alive today who remembers the switch from horses to automobiles! The automobile was a luxury item for the rich and famous when it first began, even after Henry Ford created the assembly line and began mass producing the Model T, there was not a car in everyone's driveway. Infrastructure takes time. The electric car is still a luxury item for the rich and famous. The large manufacturers are just no beginning to attempt mass production of these vehicles, but it still not be viable in 13 years for every new car purchased to be an electric vehicle. They scream about going green, but they have never seen where the stuff to make the batteries for their "green" vehicle comes from or what that does to the earth and communities around it. Oh well, Cali knows what it wants.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Why does everyone think EV power is the end all solution and is as magical as a Unicorn's rainbow fart?

EV mining and landfills will cause more damage to the earth and environment than the last 100+ years of the gasoline powered vehicle (and subsets of gasoline powered equipment).

So wait, we're going to go full EV, but use ICE powered equipment to mine, ICE powered equipment to salvage, ICE and Dino-powered electricity to recycle, and put more pollutants into the sky from battery producing and recycling facilities that will take up ACRES of land....

Yep - makes sense... not.

 

[ARAMP1]

when their power grids are overloaded and start flickering off....

I really haven't been following it much, but isn't the power grid already overloaded out there?

 

[gone_n_60]

maybe the OP was meaning the news that Cuba Gooding Jr was in court today for forcible touching.... ?

 

[LOL WUT]

While I understand that the lack of charging stations is currently a hurdle to overcome, it amazes me how many people don’t think the general idea of emissions free vehicles on a large scale is unrealistic.

 

[gone_n_60]

While I understand that the lack of charging stations is currently a hurdle to overcome, it amazes me how many people don’t think the general idea of emissions free vehicles on a large scale is unrealistic.

Personally I think it will happen in some way, like how we adopted the auto over the horse. With market forces moving producers to build what the buyers are trending to. Each market segment will adopt new products and services to keep building the new market and someday non-combustion transportation will out number combustion. I'd love to see trains running on magnets, aerial trams, even hover cars but you can't legislate change. This is optics from the myopic.

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