engineermike
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But 7.3!!!!Shows the inefficiency that Viper engine. That's always been Dodge/Chevy philosophy, more cubes = more power at the expense of efficiency.
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But 7.3!!!!Shows the inefficiency that Viper engine. That's always been Dodge/Chevy philosophy, more cubes = more power at the expense of efficiency.
Dream parts bin wh0re is a 5.2 Aluminator 580hp with a GT500 DCT in a GT350 chassis/body.My neighbor has a 2017 GT350 which I have driven at Barber, Road Atlanta and VIR. Yes, it's a nice track car, and now that he has a C8 Corvette I was offered his car, but declined. Why?
1) Limited production run motor (what about parts 5 years from now) and I'm not sure about the longevity of the Voodoo motor. For example my E90 M3 has 160,000 miles and has absolutely dozens upon dozens of track days and still needs no oil between 7,500 mile oil changes.
2) The GT350 is a track monster but as a daily, I think it's just okay.
3) The Voodoo motor vibrates quite a bit and it doesn't really have that much low-end torque compared to the Coyote (granted the S65 BMW motor is a bike motor in a car in terms of low end)
I agree, I think there's a compelling argument for the GT350 and if it were still in production I think I might be more inclined but I've opted for the Mach1 which like all cars is a compromise of performance and reliability and of course power as well. Would have been willing to pay $5K for an "optional" 5.2L Coyote with GT350 heads, but that's not offered and likely never will be. At the end of the day, for me it's still going to be a street car to go back and forth to work and track weekends as I can schedule.
Perfectly suited as a F250/350 heavy duty fleet engine !!But 7.3!!!!
Ding!Dream parts bin wh0re is a 5.2 Aluminator 580hp with a GT500 DCT in a GT350 chassis/body.
580hp NA DCT trans it would print money with a 60k or less MSRP!!
I hear ya and agree. Thing is these engines are pretty damn efficient as is now a days. There is not a lot of room for improvement, especially when staying on pump 93. "Bolt ons" only get you so far, just not going to see the gains that a lot of us old timers are used to.It sort of saddens me when many answers in threads like this lean to just buying a different car or supercharge or nothing. Whatever happened to hot rodding? I would have had a hell of a lot less fun over the last 30+ years with cars (and bikes) if I had taken the easy way out.
Yeah, it's expensive to do a high-power, NA build. I get it, I've done the math. But if that's what a person wants, that's what they want....
12:1 CompressionFI is just not the same as N/A. Now I'm talking about track use. With a good N/A car I can put the car within 6" of the apex (or at least what I think should be the apex) lap after lap. With an FI car you will find you can't do that level of precision.
Prior to the GT350 my friend (yes, he's a really good friend) and he had a Roush supercharged 2015 Mustang GT, another car I got to drive on track. It was a hoot on track, but I swear, you come into the same corner 3 times in a row, at the same speed, in the same gear (it was an auto) and for the same throttle position you will have 3 slightly different engine outputs. I've experienced this in other boosted engines too. Any mechanical engineer here want to tell me that's not possible? Yes, with FI it's probably "close enough" in terms of output but it's just not the same as a really good N/A motor.
Called it, haha....peak power at 8000...
YES! YES! YES! You can do things the HARD WAY! Or the EASY WAY. Ford gave us a motor that loves boost. Spend 6 grand on a blower and make 600. Or spend 6 grand on cams, intake ported this and that bla bla bla and make 500. Hell you can even keep your warranty with some of the blowers out there. I dont get it?It is possible but it is going to be a bit pricey. I recommend going with E85 or boost.