3.7 Forced induction

[USMCtoARMY]

@zackmd1

Here is a comparsion of stock ecoboost turbos vs the drop in upgrade "GT" / "BW Ford Perfomance" / "FR race" turbos on a dyno. I also found out that CR Performance in house can machine out and upgrade the compressor wheels on the stock eco turbos and the gains are almost indentical. The costs are apart by like 200 hundred between the options. I know your budgeting this build but I thought knowing the option of machining out the stock ecoboosts turbos produces valuable gains. Albeit you must also upgrade the compressor wheel and balance it. ALSO, the dyno is all pump gas and not e85.

 

[mafiaboss]

We had a customer back out of an upgraded S550 3.7 Twin Turbo kit. Just did a charge back on his card so cost us a bunch of money. We are selling it cheap to get rid of it fast. The kit will ship completely in January. We are offering free tuning on the kit as well and if you are in FL we are offering discounted install of $1,000.00

 

[USMCtoARMY]

We had a customer back out of an upgraded S550 3.7 Twin Turbo kit. Just did a charge back on his card so cost us a bunch of money. We are selling it cheap to get rid of it fast. The kit will ship completely in January. We are offering free tuning on the kit as well and if you are in FL we are offering discounted install of $1,000.00

I would have jumped on this if not for a couple of things like one pursuing my own build before this popped up and with my recent extension overseas leading me to have to stop my own pursuits I'll be out the game for awhile, but we are recommending this kit to folks on here....if you look above @Nagare listed it. For the price your selling it for that's a steal...especially given this kit and the reputation that comes with it.

 

[Nagare]

Yup, I'm a big fan of the kit and definitely would jump on it if I had the funds available or an interest free payment plan lol. PayPal Credit and Affirm have ridiculous rates.

 

[mafiaboss]

haha yeah we do accept all those forms of payment and we do lay away.

 

[USMCtoARMY]

We got another option on the table for FI. The Nautilus Performance Group turbo kit is about here for the s550 through auto mafia racing..
It does have a larger price tag now though and is a tuner kit so no injectors, fuel pump, or tuner. Its a bad ass kit though.

 

[Nagare]

Saw it early this morning, but here is the tally so far:

• Base kit @ $6250 (maxed out options are $7350)
• Injectors @ $700
• Fuel Pump @ $259
• AMR Lifetime tuning + tuner @ $950 (covers turbo tuning so may as well, unless you have a dyno tuner)
• Installation @ ???

Bare minimum to expect assuming full prices and self install on everything at current AMR prices is $8159

When asked about a dyno he posted, responded with "I believe so" to it being on 93 so...check this graph:

548/518 on 13lbs of boost

 

[USMCtoARMY]

Saw it early this morning, but here is the tally so far:

• Base kit @ $6250 (maxed out options are $7350)
• Injectors @ $700
• Fuel Pump @ $259
• AMR Lifetime tuning + tuner @ $950 (covers turbo tuning so may as well, unless you have a dyno tuner)
• Installation @ ???

Bare minimum to expect assuming full prices and self install on everything at current AMR prices is $8159

When asked about a dyno he posted, responded with "I believe so" to it being on 93 so...check this graph:

548/518 on 13lbs of boost

The numbers are impressive but I doubt that is pump gas. I dont even believe it's safe to push those numbers on pump gas. That kit means business though. Just look at the material being used.

 

[Nagare]

Agree, seems high, but if it is really efficient like they've been hinting this whole time, definitely possible. Just checked and back in November they shared a post by Tuned by Norm and it did say 552whp on 13lbs with pump gas. So with E85 should be mid to high 600s easily?

 

[USMCtoARMY]

Agree, seems high, but if it is really efficient like they've been hinting this whole time, definitely possible. Just checked and back in November they shared a post by Tuned by Norm and it did say 552whp on 13lbs with pump gas. So with E85 should be mid to high 600s easily?

It's very impressive, but yeah run those numbers on pump for long and your engine life is gone and your fuel pump is toast. Dont get me wrong this kit is awesome and I would love to see this on an s550.

 

[Nagare]

Just buy a new motor every 30k or so ;)

If you're able to drop this much on the kit, you can probably just factor that in as a maintenance cost!

 

[USMCtoARMY]

Just buy a new motor every 30k or so ;)

If you're able to drop this much on the kit, you can probably just factor that in as a maintenance cost!

Lol, too funny

 

[USMCtoARMY]

@zackmd1 I keep racking my head on this....one of the biggest issues with an ecoboost conversion is the limited space between the firewall and turbos exhaust flanges since they move them four inches forward when bolted up pushing them very close to the firewall. Can an adapter be made that rotates the exhaust flange angle more downward to help alleviate the spacing issues to allow for a more free flowing setup . Thoughts on this? Is it viable? Think were the turbo actually bolts to the manifolds.

 

[zackmd1]

@zackmd1 I keep racking my head on this....one of the biggest issues with an ecoboost conversion is the limited space between the firewall and turbos exhaust flanges since they move them four inches forward when bolted up pushing them very close to the firewall. Can an adapter be made that rotates the exhaust flange angle more downward to help alleviate the spacing issues to allow for a more free flowing setup . Thoughts on this? Is it viable? Think were the turbo actually bolts to the manifolds.

Hard to say without more concrete measurements but my thought would be to eliminate the ball and socket joint all together. Have a flange cut that matches the turbo housing and is welded directly to a 3"+ diameter pipe. That should eliminate any clearance issues with the firewall and reduce back pressure at the turbo outlet. To reduce NVH and reduce the possibility of the flange warping (basically what the ball and socket joint did), weld in a flex pipe coupler where the stock cats used to be.

 

[USMCtoARMY]

Hard to say without more concrete measurements but my thought would be to eliminate the ball and socket joint all together. Have a flange cut that matches the turbo housing and is welded directly to a 3"+ diameter pipe. That should eliminate any clearance issues with the firewall and reduce back pressure at the turbo outlet. To reduce NVH and reduce the possibility of the flange warping (basically what the ball and socket joint did), weld in a flex pipe coupler where the stock cats used to be.

I thought about that too but its custom as heck and u make the turbos pretty worthless to someone else once you start hacking the housings. I thought a rotated coupling flange would be a good "kit" compromise. Couple of metal adapters and bam...really need need measurements though.