It's shockingly impressive for a mass produced engine. Sure, Ferrari and a few other boutique cars have done better, but not by much.
Honestly I’m not overly concerned that a 2021 GT/M1 might be worth a few dollars more than a 2022 in 2072.
I'm not either, I'll be dead long before then.Honestly I’m not overly concerned that a 2021 GT/M1 might be worth a few dollars more than a 2022 in 2072.
Interesting point. What would the Coyote produce if factory tuned only for 91/93?
I have a suspicion it could hit 500 crank if it was tuned exclusively for 93. 91 is too much of piss water to do much better than what the Mach 1 hit already.
Problem there is that many areas of the country do not have 93. Even in the Dallas metro area any number of stations have 91 oct vs 93. One must look at the pump closely. It would be nice if they had to show it on their curb sign.
In 1993 I read that the Mustang 5.0 was re-rated at 205hp and 280 ft-lbs because the SAE prompted Ford to change it.
i mean no disrespect, but you’re welcome to enjoy the new colors and special editions while I enjoy romping on the go-pedal and basking in that glorious sound in track mode with the top down. As someone pointed out above, I haven’t felt such exhilaration since 1970 and yes, I was there first hand. If I’d been happy just looking good I’d have bought an EcoBoost.Perhaps I'm just an eternal optimist, but I still think we'll get a Gen 4 Coyote in S650. A nice 480hp for the stock GT, and 500hp for an SE down the line.
Whilst a 10hp / 10 ft/lb loss isn't great, at least Ford have provided a bunch of new colors and special editions to take the sting off the 2022s
You have this backwards. It's the kids that are smart enough to know that a loss of 10 "gross" HP is absolutely totally ridiculous. It's the "hard core" folks that are blowing this totally out of proportion. I highly doubt that anyone who is actually going to buy a car to drive will pass on a 2022 just because of the HP change. If anything 2022 sales will increase as its the last year for the S550.
There's probably more, but with compromises. Raising the compression ratio even higher would likely provide more power. But higher fuel consumption and possibly emissions, and possibly rendering a different mix of direct and indirect injector usage, which of course affects consumption and economy, and possibly longevity. It's interesting how the Mustang has not been subject to the auto engine shut off "feature" like the F-150 has. The Mustang also does not have the new cylinder deactivation, for now.
We're close enough to the same age for me (at almost 74) to understand where you're coming from. So while I have no interest in an EB, I'm fully OK with the 10 HP "loss". Hell, I'd seriously consider a Mustang with a smaller-displacement Coyote variant if that's what it eventually takes to keep the V8 Mustang GT viable. Maybe even a V6 offering as long as it was competitively powerful to other V6 engines in the 3.5L - 3.7L displacement range (I kind of like hearing a good V6 sound-track "at revs").
I've always preferred small-blocks over big-blocks and power at revs over low-end grunt, so it's probably not the same feeling for me to see that the NA GT/Mach 1 engines have lost a few HP. I never tied my appreciation of a car specifically to its advertised HP.
