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Any idea when the site will be updated to the 2022 configurator?
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I see they brought back the 16-17 GT/CS wheel for non PP1 GT/CS, , It would have been decent to at least offer the Bullitt Grey version in a squared set up instead of the older GT/CS wheel

Too bad you cannot get a Black paint with the Ice White Edition :crazy:

GT/CS can also be ordered in orange., but still odd no race red for GT/CS??? I find that strange for 2022.
 

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You speaking from experience on that? I wasn't even aware the Mopars had an electronic column lock.
no. I'm going from the premise that Detroit has failed miserably at every so-called "security" measure they've come up with esp as it relates to anything with software. You'd think they could actually hire someone who can credibly attack a system or hire real security engineers, and dispense with the false notion that normal programmers can somehow write security-hard software. Clearly they can't.

Ford et. al. get sued for all kinds of silly crap but a vehicle security feature that doesn't work and can be shown to be trivially defeated and can be argued in court to be bloody obvious (ie. Ford didn't bother to actually test their implementation) opens up a nasty legal risk.
 

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Any idea when the site will be updated to the 2022 configurator?
Don't hold your breath, it took months before the '21 configurator was up, and weeks of glitches after.
 

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If you compare the 5.0 to the 4.0 liter flat 6 Porsche uses you will see that there is significant potential to increase power without increasing displacement. The 4.0 Porsche makes 500 hp, and the 5.0 is 25% larger. I would be satisfied with 625 hp. Even if Ford fell short of Porsche's specific output and got about 580 from the 5.0 I would be ok with that.
No need to you just need to get Aluminator is 5.2 l 580 hp N/A. But it's $$$ Steeda have one on the Number 20 car.
 

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no. I'm going from the premise that Detroit has failed miserably at every so-called "security" measure they've come up with esp as it relates to anything with software. You'd think they could actually hire someone who can credibly attack a system or hire real security engineers, and dispense with the false notion that normal programmers can somehow write security-hard software. Clearly they can't.

Ford et. al. get sued for all kinds of silly crap but a vehicle security feature that doesn't work and can be shown to be trivially defeated and can be argued in court to be bloody obvious (ie. Ford didn't bother to actually test their implementation) opens up a nasty legal risk.
Has the electronic column lock on the S550 been shown to not work?
 

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You speaking from experience on that? I wasn't even aware the Mopars had an electronic column lock.

Also my understanding is that the Charger/Challenger are susceptible to key signal spoofing (and just engaging the transmission emergency release on the automatics and being pushed away/loaded onto a flatbed).
Judging by where and from whom the Chargers are being stolen, I am of the belief that a number of the owners are actively creating the issue. No different than leaving an unwanted car or truck parked near the bridge in Laredo with the doors unlocked and the fob in plain sight.
 

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Judging by where and from whom the Chargers are being stolen, I am of the belief that a number of the owners are actively creating the issue. No different than leaving an unwanted car or truck parked near the bridge in Laredo with the doors unlocked and the fob in plain sight.
Based on some of the stuff I've seen Charger owners participate in, I'd say that's an accurate assumption.
 

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It is a certain subset of people that own them and are the ones law enforcement has the most issues with. Race is not a factor either. It seems to be a mindset. Just as with some suv and pick up drivers that can get stupid in a heartbeat.
 

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Read this article and it explains why the Mustang has a reduced HP and not the other muscle boys. If you remember, during the Trump admin, California decided to create their own stricter regulatory guidelines. Ford, VW and Honda decided to join this effort where they are increasing fuel economy by 3.7% per year instead of the government mandated of 1.5%.

Stellantis and GM refuse to join and are lobbying congress on this because the Sleepy Administration is soon to adopt the California regulatory rules nationwide.

It seems that Ford is NOT mandated to reduce the HP, it is their decision based on joining the California regulators.

This would explain why the 2022 Dodge vehicles still have the same HP. At least its the best explanation so far.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/biden-administration-to-roll-out-tighter-cafe-rules-in-july/
 

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I'm not clear on what the Active Anti-Theft System does do for the Security Package. I've tried looking online but haven't found a clear answer.
 

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Yes, no point to talk about bigger displacement, it's highly unlikely it's going to happen. Coyote will stay 5.0. They're cutting power now because of emissions , they dropped 5.2 Voodoo and you think they'd add dozens of g/km of CO2 emissions? I think that train already left. Not in GT anyway. But there could be Boss 302 with 500 hp at some point, that would be sweet. There's a factory supercharged version for those who want significantly more power so they have it covered, various aftermarket options too.
It's almost like you don't really want more displacement and more power. I do.

This is a good place to tell Ford and their competitors what we want. I think the Dodge competitor to the Mustang is too large and heavy, but I like what Dodge is doing with larger engines. Ford may never get my money again if they don't make small cars and their Mustang is emasculated.

If you like porky cars with small engines or really complex hybrids - definitely speak up.

EB 135+ hp / L is impressive as well.
To me it's important to consider the entire package. I think the 2.3T would be more than impressive in my Fiesta ST, but in the Mustang it's ok, not great.

No need to you just need to get Aluminator is 5.2 l 580 hp N/A. But it's $$$ Steeda have one on the Number 20 car.
Yes, around 580 would be a good hp total and I would buy a new regular GT (not a limited production car that dealers mark up to a higher price) if it stayed at a reasonable weight and had that amount of power.
 
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