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i dont know enough about the ring. is this a good time, or close to what we should expect from a mach 1 optioned this way?
 

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i dont know enough about the ring. is this a good time, or close to what we should expect from a mach 1 optioned this way?

Not a very good time at all. A sub 8 minute lap is considered good but not exceptional. A 2008 BMW M3 ran an 8:05 a ZCP (Comp package) in 2012 ran a 7:58 although it isn't recorded on Nurburgring times. This is a car that was on PS2s and with only 414hp. Now one caveat is it wasn't a HP car with the Cup2s. That easily would have shaved 5-7 seconds off the lap.

If I recall a GT350R ran a sub 7:30 at the ring.
 

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i dont know enough about the ring. is this a good time, or close to what we should expect from a mach 1 optioned this way?
well, the ring is both technical AND fast, it is a great test grind for an all around great car. I think the HP would make a significant difference here, between tires for low speed sharp turns, and downforce for the high speed straights and sweeps.
 

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Just as a reference Sport Auto lapped a 2017 Civic Type R in 7:43
I feel like there's a "By the way..." involved in that time difference.
 

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Was this car running Cup 2 tires? I don't see much aero here either. Was this just a base Mach 1?
 

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Not a very good time at all. A sub 8 minute lap is considered good but not exceptional. A 2008 BMW M3 ran an 8:05 a ZCP (Comp package) in 2012 ran a 7:58 although it isn't recorded on Nurburgring times. This is a car that was on PS2s and with only 414hp. Now one caveat is it wasn't a HP car with the Cup2s. That easily would have shaved 5-7 seconds off the lap.

If I recall a GT350R ran a sub 7:30 at the ring.
well, the ring is both technical AND fast, it is a great test grind for an all around great car. I think the HP would make a significant difference here, between tires for low speed sharp turns, and downforce for the high speed straights and sweeps.
i cant watch the video at the moment but i imagine the driver plays a huge role at the ring. is the guy driving someone respectable or some magazine writer that my wife could beat through the turns?
 

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i cant watch the video at the moment but i imagine the driver plays a huge role at the ring. is the guy driving someone respectable or some magazine writer that my wife could beat through the turns?

Its SportAuto, very reputable driver. Also keep in mind the older F82 M4 ran a 7:52. To be frank I was expecting better. I don't know what tires the 2021 Mach 1 gets with the non HP package. If its the PZero that could be part of it. Still somewhat underwhelming.
 

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oh, and the C8 does 7:28.
ZL1 1LE Camaro does 7:16
SS 1LE looks to be mid 7:30s
 

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well, the ring is both technical AND fast, it is a great test grind for an all around great car. I think the HP would make a significant difference here, between tires for low speed sharp turns, and downforce for the high speed straights and sweeps.

Very true, here is a E92 M3 with just some aero, tires and KW coilover kit running a 7:34, in traffic no less. Also, you will notice his DTC still kicking in. He still had the nannies on. Man I miss my E92, the way that thing sounded.


For more reference the new G82 M4 Comp ran a 7:30.79.

 
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There is the car was prepped.
Not sure what you mean but there more fwd cars around that time

It's just so that the M1 is a heavy car and is under tired with the PS4s tires that comes on the none HP. Also it's a 3:55 geared car in Europe, I would think the A10 would be quicker around the lap
 
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