BombZombie
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Coming from the Subaru WRX/STI community, owner/dealership discussion "how-to" guides when something breaks are abundant and detailed.Good words of advice here
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Coming from the Subaru WRX/STI community, owner/dealership discussion "how-to" guides when something breaks are abundant and detailed.Good words of advice here
If you have bolt on tow hooks, competition numbers or any other obvious track accessories, windshield banners, remove them before going to a dealer. Have the car detailed to get any track rubber streaks removed, arrive on street wheels with stock tires. Get that helmet out of the front seatWhen it comes to alot of these forum documented situations, I'm always wondering what was said to a dealer/service manager by the owner, or how the situation was approached. Being accused of "racing" warrants some information that was disclosed by owner. I'm also guessing that having a track shop do some work, "fix it", and then (from what the post suggests) continue to track the car, might have worked against the owners claims. I know the owner simply wanted a small reimbursement of his expenses for labor and fluids, but I understand a dealership not being willing to cover that (all solely based on what info the post provided).
My opinion - follow the inspection/maintenance guide, document it, and don't talk about any details of the event if something happens - let the evidence speak for itself.
When it comes to alot of these forum documented situations, I'm always wondering what was said to a dealer/service manager by the owner, or how the situation was approached. Being accused of "racing" warrants some information that was disclosed by owner. I'm also guessing that having a track shop do some work, "fix it", and then (from what the post suggests) continue to track the car, might have worked against the owners claims. I know the owner simply wanted a small reimbursement of his expenses for labor and fluids, but I understand a dealership not being willing to cover that (all solely based on what info the post provided).
My opinion - follow the inspection/maintenance guide, document it, and don't talk about any details of the event if something happens - let the evidence speak for itself.
Racing is not the only reason they can deny the claim. Any "track" or "other event" even if it is not a competition and not timed, can be grounds for denying a claim.If you have bolt on tow hooks, competition numbers or any other obvious track accessories, windshield banners, remove them before going to a dealer. Have the car detailed to get any track rubber streaks removed, arrive on street wheels with stock tires. Get that helmet out of the front seat
We can go into the minutiae of everything that would cause a warranty claim denial, but it won't get us anywhere and we'd eventually exist in an echo chamber.Racing is not the only reason they can deny the claim. Any "track" or "other event" even if it is not a competition and not timed, can be grounds for denying a claim.
Either way, these cars will have the Ford Pass equipment which reports to Ford even if you don't sign up. That will make it easy for them to tell where the car has been and how it was used. Apparently the only way to turn off all of the snitches is to pull the modem out of the trunk so it can't communicate.
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/the-how-to-disable-the-data-link-to-ford-thread.146863/
it was in the 2019 manual.but actually listing what to do when you drag race or track the car is something I've not seen before.
I don't see how. Describing how to use the track features does NOT IN ANY WAY imply warranty coverage while doing said activities. That they keep inserting "track use" as an exclusion would suggest any track use during 5/60 is cause for denial. Your auto insurance likewise will likely reject any claims made while engaging in 'timed' events which puts the bullseye on Autocross.Majority of us will be just fine.
They can and do.Surely there's no way they could have free access to the car's location. Everyone else would need a court order for that first.
See the last part of the post. The dealer knew information about the vehicle while it was not in their possession by accessing the information in the cloud. Ford also sells the information to insurance companies and other businesses. California is currently the only state with very rigid laws around selling personal information if you opt out.Sure, ofc it collects this, what I meant is that such data are unusable to the dealer to dispute any warranty claims. Surely you have privacy laws in USA too? It may be in their cloud but the dealer should have no access to it.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha <deep breath> ha ha ha h aha ha haSurely you have privacy laws in USA too?
Keep in mind that "track use" can be a broad stroke to cover many legitimate warranty claim denials. It's purely part of Ford's legal team verbiage to protect company pockets and the image of their product. It doesn't just apply to the engine or power train. It also covers things like tires, wheels, brakes, shafts, etc. Even if you follow the maintance guidelines as described by Ford, but decide to Rev the absolute shit out of the engine, constantly bouncing it off the Rev limiter, and dump the clutch every chance you get, while participating in a non-competitive "track" event, Ford can use the "abuse" and "track" clause in their warranty verbiage to deny your claim....this same situation could apply in a parking lot or stoplight to stoplight. They track the stats via ECU, nothing we can really do about it.it was in the 2019 manual.
I don't see how. Describing how to use the track features does NOT IN ANY WAY imply warranty coverage while doing said activities. That they keep inserting "track use" as an exclusion would suggest any track use before 5/60 is up is cause for denial. Your auto insurance likewise will likely reject any claims made while engaging in 'timed' events which puts the bullseye on Autocross.
Now if you lunch a valve during sustained high RPM use, you might get away with the "I like listening to my engine and was in 2nd gear going down a lonely road when it let go" but I wouldn't put too much faith in it.
they sure charge enough to cover the eventuality you'd think. Or they could adopt a 20 or 30% co-pay model. Marketing/Sales is 100% about lying to you so you'll buy. They could give a rip about post-sales obligations. The accountants/lawyers will make sure you don't get a brass farthing unless you can prove your case.I just wish Ford would back up their track ready cars with a track use warranty