2021 Mach 1 CONFIRMED in Leaked Ford Document!!!

[themustang_man07]

All I'm going to say is, the last Mach 1 had the previous Gen Cobra Motor (DOHC), where the same gen Bullitt had a slightly tuned GT Motor with better intake. The Cobra of that Gen had a DOHC Motor Supercharged with lower compression. (To handle the supercharger.)

So basically, this could be fake news, and I wouldn't be surprised, and actually excited, if the Mach 1 received a FPC 5.2 with a shaker...

I hope they come back! I miss my '04

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[falcongtho3]

So, if you take the engine codes we do know from 2020, The 'H' is the conventional Eco-Boost. We can extrapolate that the 'D' code will be the Hi-Po Ecoboost. The 'J' code is the GT500. The 'F' code is assigned to the GT. That leaves the '0' code which is currently the 480hp Bullitt engine. And that would be the Mach 1 engine. Where else would it go?
And the 03/04 Mach 1 engine was a descendant of the DOHC Cobra engine, with a number of changes; cams, intake, heads. Not the same engine. And certainly not the cast iron block of the same year Cobras.

 

[Schwerin]

I hope they come back! I miss my '04

Still miss my 03.

 

[Schwerin]

So, if you take the engine codes we do know from 2020, The 'H' is the conventional Eco-Boost. We can extrapolate that the 'D' code will be the Hi-Po Ecoboost. The 'J' code is the GT500. The 'F' code is assigned to the GT. That leaves the '0' code which is currently the 480hp Bullitt engine. And that would be the Mach 1 engine. Where else would it go?
And the 03/04 Mach 1 engine was a descendant of the DOHC Cobra engine, with a number of changes; cams, intake, heads. Not the same engine. And certainly not the cast iron block of the same year Cobras.

It was basically a '01 Cobra bottom end with '03-4 Cobra heads/cams and revised '01 intake.

If staying the same formula, which I've suggested before, the new Mach1 would be a 5.0(as we already know) with GT500 heads/cams, and Bullitt/GT350 intake system(Which has been hinted a few times). Not sure how much the heads/cams would help over the Gen 3 but it may help the IM flow on the top end so I'm expecting about ~500hp with redline closer to 8000RPM.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

It was basically a '01 Cobra bottom end with '03-4 Cobra heads/cams and revised '01 intake.

If staying the same formula, which I've suggested before, the new Mach1 would be a 5.0(as we already know) with GT500 heads/cams, and Bullitt/GT350 intake system(Which has been hinted a few times). Not sure how much the heads/cams would help over the Gen 3 but it may help the IM flow on the top end so I'm expecting about ~500hp with redline closer to 8000RPM.

I don't see parts mixing from the different engines, not for a special edition. Don't forget, the gen 3/bullitt heads are DI while the 350/500 heads are port injected only. Most likely the mach 1 engine will be the carryover bullitt engine, with maybe a slight hp bump, but I doubt it

 

[Schwerin]

I don't see parts mixing from the different engines, not for a special edition. Don't forget, the gen 3/bullitt heads are DI while the 350/500 heads are port injected only. Most likely the mach 1 engine will be the carryover bullitt engine, with maybe a slight hp bump, but I doubt it

Its not like they haven't done it before, and if its just a 2yr model they may not have reason to care if its DI or not. I have a feeling the BULLITT engine is more likely, but if its mostly just going to be a BULLITT with Aero, PPL2 and GT350 tranny there wasn't much reason for them to not have done the BULLITT similar to that.

I already think it was dumb for them to make the PPL2 separate from the BULLITT. They just had to drop the front 2nd spliter and include a more daily-able tire. Being as the car was cutting corners all over SanFran it made sense for it to have a better handling package. Just would have had to make an optional Aero package. Would have saved them on advertising and all it would be missing is the GT350 tranny. Which lets face it, most Mach1 and Bullitt owners wont be tracking like Shelby guys do, and the Mach1 is known more as a 1/4 car than a corner huger, so the longer gearing wont help any... unless the plan is to make the 4.09 rear stock.

 

[falcongtho3]

It was basically a '01 Cobra bottom end with '03-4 Cobra heads/cams and revised '01 intake.

Navigator cams on the exhaust side, Cobra heads and radiator.

 

[falcongtho3]

Still miss my 03.

Still have mine. Worth hanging on to. Gets more attention than my Boss 302.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

I don't think it will get the gt 350 trans, it will most likely be the MT-82/D4 just like the bullitt has. Why keep the more expensive trans in the pipeline when the mt 82 is already there and more than sufficient for a ~500hp streetcar. And I believe the 10R80 will be optional.

 

[biminiLX]

If Ford is smart they’ll make a drag street/strip focused Mach 1.
And yes, I’d expect parts sharing to make a unique combo.
I’d like to see a 12:1 5.2 cross plane crank with porting, basically a ported head, good intake Gen 3.
GT350 Tremec with 4.09s or 10R with 3.73s and 8000rpm fun.
Forget the road course, go after SRTs strangle hold on drag muscle cars.
-J

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

If Ford is smart they’ll make a drag street/strip focused Mach 1
Forget the road course, go after SRTs strangle hold on drag muscle cars.
-J

I agree, the gt350/500's have the road course/track taken care of. Time to give us street/strip guys something to be proud of.

I’d like to see a 12:1 5.2 cross plane crank with porting, basically a ported head, good intake Gen 3.

That engine basically exists already, it's the A52XS aluminator engine. It makes 580 hp N/A with the cobra jet intake.

I wish they would destroke the 7.3 down to a 428, 429 and give it more cam and use that engine for a large cube mustang engine. Chevy has a 6.2, mopar has a 6.4, but Ford is stuck on 5 liters.

 

[biminiLX]

I agree, the gt350/500's have the road course/track taken care of. Time to give us street/strip guys something to be proud of.



That engine basically exists already, it's the A52XS aluminator engine. It makes 580 hp N/A with the cobra jet intake.

I wish they would destroke the 7.3 down to a 428, 429 and give it more cam and use that engine for a large cube mustang engine. Chevy has a 6.2, mopar has a 6.4, but Ford is stuck on 5 liters.

You’re right about the 52XS but that’s never been used in production, and I think we both agree that would all really well.
As far as the 7.3 goes, until there is an aluminum block version, it’s a no go in the Mustang IMO.
It’s a Super Duty motor, and one with good potential, but heavy for a Mustang.
And for the record I’d take a 8000rpm 5.2 over their 6500rpm pushrod 6.2/6.4s.
Just add boost and game over.
The gearing and the optional 4.09s can make a huge difference in the Mach1.
What’s the highest gearing Ford has used in the 10R auto cars?
-J

 

[Darkane]

I agree, the gt350/500's have the road course/track taken care of. Time to give us street/strip guys something to be proud of.


That engine basically exists already, it's the A52XS aluminator engine. It makes 580 hp N/A with the cobra jet intake.

I wish they would destroke the 7.3 down to a 428, 429 and give it more cam and use that engine for a large cube mustang engine. Chevy has a 6.2, mopar has a 6.4, but Ford is stuck on 5 liters.

The aluminator only makes 580hp with long tube headers and race fuel. It won’t make anywhere near that number built for ‘street’ use.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

3.55's for an auto 3.73's for a manual. The 52XS is built on the same niche line as the 350/500 engines, they could just use the 350 intake with an 87 mm throttle body. It might lose 5-10 hp over the CJ intake but 570-575 hp N/A would be awesome.

BTW the 52XS is basically a high compression 500 motor w/o the blower, same block, same cross plane crank, and same heads as the 350/500. Even the cams are the same as the 500.

 

[themustang_man07]

Still have mine. Worth hanging on to. Gets more attention than my Boss 302.

They are worth hanging on to! Just kinda hard to haul 5/8 plywood from lowes in it!

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